Best Card on the Market for CoD

[Codex]

No offence to anyone but do people actually read the articles?

Card is mediocre - they just pulled the old trick and making glueing together two lesser cards to make a better single unit at a lower price.

They've used the Cayman XT GPU's not the Bart GPU's for this card, so they've broken with tradition.

The latest series from AMD is a flop - overheats like GTX 480 used to and can be used for heating purposes. A real shame on AMD's part that they can't take the lead and produce the proper card.

Huh? The 5800 and 6800 series of cards use less power and are quieter than the 480, even the 580 uses less than a 480. As for power load and temps on the 6990, this new card uses less than a 580 in SLI and produces more performance, and will no doubt cost less than a 580x2 SLI set up.

Everyone must remember that this card is not for everyone, hell I'd even recommend lower spec'd cards for CoD. But if you've got a multi monitor set up and want nothing but ALL the highest settings to be displayed then this is the card you'd want to get.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by Codex

No offence to anyone but do people actually read the articles?


They've used the Cayman XT GPU's not the Bart GPU's for this card, so they've broken with tradition.


Huh? The 5800 and 6800 series of cards use less power and are quieter than the 480, even the 580 uses less than a 480. As for power load and temps on the 6990, this new card uses less than a 580 in SLI and produces more performance, and will no doubt cost less than a 580x2 SLI set up.

Everyone must remember that this card is not for everyone, hell I'd even recommend lower spec'd cards for CoD. But if you've got a multi monitor set up and want nothing but ALL the highest settings to be displayed then this is the card you'd want to get.

6990 does NOT perform better or even as 2x580, period. It doesnt even perform like 2x6970 but more like 2x6950 + its hotter, a fair chunk louder and more powerhungry, but hey, at least its more expensive.

Temps are high but would be even higher if the the fan wasnt working overtime to keep the heat at bay. Its the loudest card ever produced, hence, in extension the hottest (the stock cooler is a complete waste of space.)

The fact that many sites doing the tests got errors, black screens, refusal to even start applications etc, is just icing on the cake.(apparently)

Typical AMD cut and paste hope for the best dont worry about the driver, that we can fix in a month or two, maby approach.

The point of this card is beyond me and i feel for those suckered into buying it.

[Codex]

Originally Posted by Baron

6990 does NOT perform better or even as 2x580, period. It doesnt even perform like 2x6970 but more like 2x6950 + its hotter, a fair chunk louder and more powerhungry, but hey, at least its more expensive.

Temps are high but would be even higher if the the fan wasnt working overtime to keep the heat at bay. Its the loudest card ever produced, hence, in extension the hottest (the stock cooler is a complete waste of space.)

The fact that many sites doing the tests got errors, black screens, refusal to even start applications etc, is just icing on the cake.(apparently)

Typical AMD cut and paste hope for the best dont worry about the driver, that we can fix in a month or two, maby approach.

The point of this card is beyond me and i feel for those suckered into buying it.

Well I stand corrected and I'll take back my words then re: frame rate performance, I did get a little bit carried away. However AMD still has the bang for buck title over nVidia no matter which card you look at.

Re the driver part - same old same old. nVidia has their fair share of issues as well. I had them when I first got 8800GTX's in SLI and a 9800GTX. I also had them when I got the 4870X2, for me I've always had driver issues with a new card.

I'm not even going to try and explain why I buy the top of the line cards, anyone who knows me knows why. But at the end of the day it's about choice and what a customer wants. I'm actually waiting to see how the 590GTX fairs before I upgrade again.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by Codex

Well I stand corrected and I'll take back my words then re: frame rate performance, I did get a little bit carried away. However AMD still has the bang for buck title over nVidia no matter which card you look at.

Re the driver part - same old same old. nVidia has their fair share of issues as well. I had them when I first got 8800GTX's in SLI and a 9800GTX. I also had them when I got the 4870X2, for me I've always had driver issues with a new card.

I'm not even going to try and explain why I buy the top of the line cards, anyone who knows me knows why. But at the end of the day it's about choice and what a customer wants. I'm actually waiting to see how the 590GTX fairs before I upgrade again.

No they dont - how many of these ATI cards can you link up? How much will it cost to cool them? Can I buy three or even four of these and have them in crossfire?

edit-made me lol: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/03/08/ju...on-benchmarks/

[Codex]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

No they dont - how many of these ATI cards can you link up? How much will it cost to cool them? Can I buy three or even four of these and have them in crossfire?

Errrr ???? yeah you can. I've only ever had 2 way crossfire / 2 way SLI systems.

4 x 5870 crossfire on stock cooling.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=4043081

You can even now crossfire your stand alone cards with your on-board graphics chip (Hybrid CrossFire) if you've got one.

Cooling ... it depends what your doing. The stock coolers are fine even under load, just make sure your case is well ventilated. But you'd be crazy not to get a well ventilated case if your using multi GPU's, doesn't matter if your using SLI or Crossfire, goes without saying.

If you decide to overclock then that's another story. Spending $$$ on cooling depends on how much you can afford and how far you want to push the hardware.

I'm probably coming across as a AMD fan boy but I can assure you I'm not. I only go for what will gives me the best bang for my dollar.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

No they dont - how many of these ATI cards can you link up? How much will it cost to cool them? Can I buy three or even four of these and have them in crossfire?

edit-made me lol: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/03/08/ju...on-benchmarks/

I think that when talking about bang for buck, most of us don't mean multiple GPUs. For the majority of people what it translates to is "the cheapest single card solution for a given performance range or the fastest one for a given price range, preferably one that i won't have to upgrade again for the next year or more".

In that department, Ati have been ahead during the 4xxx and 5xxx series. Heck, the first time i bought an Ati card was when i got my current i7 rig almost two years ago. I initially bought a 4870 which was defective/damaged during shipping so when it died i used the 3 year warranty and exchanged it for a 4890 which i still have. I'm very pleased with it, it runs well and cool and has more vRAM than the more expensive nVidia GPUs of that generation. If i'm 10fps ahead in one game and 10fps behind in another, i don't care much about it. It does the same job overall for less money and that's good enough for me.


If you mean bang for your buck in regards to multi-GPU setups for expensive rigs to run every single new game at maximum detail then yes, i agree there's other variables in the mix, but it's not what most people have in mind when they are talking about building a well-rounded, capable system on a budget.

[Revvin]

I've always used nVidia since their first TNT cards apart from a brief spell with an ATi 9800 card. Back then drivers were a little patchy, no as bad as some make out mind you but were not as strong as nVidia who seemed bulletproof at the time. I stuck with nVidia for a long time but having seen the performance on friends machines and that ATi's drivers are - in my opinion as good as nVidia's I took the plunge and bought a 6870 for a cheap upgrade. I've been very happy with the performance and may stick with ATi the next time aroudn though as always I'll evaluate the cards from both manufacturers but right now it seems like ATi gives the best bang for buck and I certainly would not discourage a member here from using them.

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

In that department, Ati have been ahead during the 4xxx and 5xxx series. Heck, the first time i bought an Ati card was when i got my current i7 rig almost two years ago. I initially bought a 4870 which was defective/damaged during shipping so when it died i used the 3 year warranty and exchanged it for a 4890 which i still have. I'm very pleased with it, it runs well and cool and has more vRAM than the more expensive nVidia GPUs of that generation. If i'm 10fps ahead in one game and 10fps behind in another, i don't care much about it. It does the same job overall for less money and that's good enough for me.

+1, the 48xx series have been wonderful for me, and for a relatively long time in computing terms as well.

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by Codex

Errrr ???? yeah you can. I've only ever had 2 way crossfire / 2 way SLI systems.

4 x 5870 crossfire on stock cooling.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=4043081

You can even now crossfire your stand alone cards with your on-board graphics chip (Hybrid CrossFire) if you've got one.

Cooling ... it depends what your doing. The stock coolers are fine even under load, just make sure your case is well ventilated. But you'd be crazy not to get a well ventilated case if your using multi GPU's, doesn't matter if your using SLI or Crossfire, goes without saying.

If you decide to overclock then that's another story. Spending $$$ on cooling depends on how much you can afford and how far you want to push the hardware.

I'm probably coming across as a AMD fan boy but I can assure you I'm not. I only go for what will gives me the best bang for my dollar.

Not answering the question/comment. I am specifically talking about the 6990 - since its already 2 cards, interms of space, slots and heating is it able to go 3 way crossfire? I doube it thats 6 gpu die. If you bought a more expensive single card thats the better long term option.

As for value - yes ATI/AMD has been leading the pack until the 500's, but the 6990 I dont find special.

edit- apparently you can run two 6990s, which is four cards. But while each 6990 is better than a single card they are of course not a single card which limits future expansion: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...e,2878-16.html

[akodonnell]

I want to get a GTX 560 TI, but I'm not sure which one to get. One has better cooling (potentially a longer lifespan?) with a three year warranty, and the other has only one fan but a lifetime warranty. Any suggestions? Here they are compared:

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