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Old 02-03-2011, 06:48 PM
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many saiteks x52s have that problem, try only installing the cd drivers
As I explained above I have use different drivers, even one beta driver still under development. All with the same result. x65f does not communicate the right throttle with il2 right.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:55 PM
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Tested with keys. It does not recognise it as a key.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:47 PM
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Tested with keys. It does not recognise it as a key.
OK. Do you use any Saitek joystick profile when playing Il2? Check that this throttle is not altered to act as a switch there.

You can also check ingame joystick settings (Hardware Setup -> Input). Look for something unusual, like sensitivity, filtering or dead band settings.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:02 AM
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OK. Do you use any Saitek joystick profile when playing Il2? Check that this throttle is not altered to act as a switch there.

You can also check ingame joystick settings (Hardware Setup -> Input). Look for something unusual, like sensitivity, filtering or dead band settings.
If you try to rule out fault on my side you can now. This issue has been bugging me for quite long time: I tried (obviously) with and without profiles,I check for unusual things in all the three saitek I had and in the three installs.

As I stated before this problem has been tested with three different joys in three different computes with three different specs. I have been flying Il2 since the original game and I also have joycntrl and I can guarantee you this problem has nothing to do with joy/computer specs but with the way il2 communicates with this particular joystick. Hey guys, can anyone back me up here? Does anyone else own an x65f that proves me right or wrong?
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:52 AM
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If you try to rule out fault on my side you can now. This issue has been bugging me for quite long time: I tried (obviously) with and without profiles,I check for unusual things in all the three saitek I had and in the three installs.

As I stated before this problem has been tested with three different joys in three different computes with three different specs. I have been flying Il2 since the original game and I also have joycntrl and I can guarantee you this problem has nothing to do with joy/computer specs but with the way il2 communicates with this particular joystick. Hey guys, can anyone back me up here? Does anyone else own an x65f that proves me right or wrong?
How many axes are there on this device?
Primary control has 3 (it's a twist joystick, right?)
2 throttle sliders.
Probably at least 2 rotaries
Is there a small mouse/joystick there too? That adds 2 more axes.

This means you have 9 axes on one device and the limit on number of axes per device is 8.

Can you confirm that you have more than 8 axes? Go to Il2 Controls settings and just assign one control after another to Flaps or something. Write down how Il2 recognizes each axis (also write down Joystick ID if there is any shown). Post here the results.

Is it possible to turn off some of the axes in driver settings or change their behavior? For example change the small joystick/mouse to 4-way hat switch, if possible.

I've seen videos of people using X65 in Il-2, but I can't tell if they used separate throttle controls or not.
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Old 02-04-2011, 10:30 AM
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How many axes are there on this device?
Primary control has 3 (it's a twist joystick, right?)
2 throttle sliders.
Probably at least 2 rotaries
Is there a small mouse/joystick there too? That adds 2 more axes.

This means you have 9 axes on one device and the limit on number of axes per device is 8.

Can you confirm that you have more than 8 axes? Go to Il2 Controls settings and just assign one control after another to Flaps or something. Write down how Il2 recognizes each axis (also write down Joystick ID if there is any shown). Post here the results.

Is it possible to turn off some of the axes in driver settings or change their behavior? For example change the small joystick/mouse to 4-way hat switch, if possible.

I've seen videos of people using X65 in Il-2, but I can't tell if they used separate throttle controls or not.
The small joystick works as the mouse. It is in fact recognized by the computer as a mouse. I think it cannot be assign to any axis therefore there are only 7 axis. Anyway I will confirm it this afternoon because I'm now at work and I'm not 100% sure.
I have check yesterday and the name assign to the faulty throttle is "U slider Axis ID2" while the first throttle (left one and the one which works correctly) says "z axis id2" (does not say slider).

Checked. The small joy it is the mouse therefore no possibility of assign it to any axis. Il2 recognizes "x axis id2", "y axis id2" and "z axis rotation id2" (stick, 3 axis), then on the throttle it has "y axis rotation id2" and "x axis rotation Id2" (both rotaries, 2 more axis) and on the throttle left one is called "z axis id2" and the right one is called "U slider Axis ID2". No other axis is presented on the stick. Total = 7 axis. All of them are called id2 at the end of the name because I also have saitek rudder installed. I also tested the joy without the rudder with same result. It does not work.

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Old 02-05-2011, 09:15 AM
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Default Here we go again... "excuse me" written in the forehead.

Do you have any idea when this Fixes will be available for us all?

Thank you in advance.

Salutes!!!
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:35 AM
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Well, I've asked this before - but if there is a way to add a conf.ini option to disable TrackIR while in external view? It get's really weird controlling the external view with TrackIR for me at least. Most other sims have it this way as default... And yes - a lot of us enjoy to fly with external views enabled.

This should be rather easy I guess?

Edit as martinstripes is correct regarding his comments and my request above may sound more like a demand than a request Thanks for all your hard work! I have said it before and will say it again!

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Old 02-07-2011, 07:56 AM
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When arrives the patch 4.101?
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:46 AM
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Sorry to be a little off topic but...

I am just astounded by how rude and ungrateful some people can be. First of all, this is a game, that you play for 'fun'. And secondly, the amount of time and effort TD have poured into this, I for one am very grateful for every single adjustment they make. You only have to take a look at the Silent Hunter series to see just how 'different' things can be when it comes to patches and support!

For those with the red mist and steam coming out their ears, maybe a few deep breaths and a healthy dose of real life is in order.
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