Friday 2010-10-22 Dev. update and Discussion

[winny]

Hi Oleg, I have a quick question about the terrain.

Did you use satllite images and then 'fix' them to match with 1940 or did you start from scratch? just wondering. Thanks.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by winny

Hi Oleg, I have a quick question about the terrain.

Did you use satllite images and then 'fix' them to match with 1940? just wondering. Thanks.

Yes, but not everywhere.

[philip.ed]

I hear that WoP used 1940 satellite images for the Dover area. Did you do this too, Oleg?

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I hear that WoP used 1940 satellite images for the Dover area. Did you do this too, Oleg?

Please read what you wrote.... Gagarin started in space in 1961. Just to remind.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Please read what you wrote.... Gagarin started in space in 1961. Just to remind.

Sorry, I see what you mean.

They used aerial images My mistake.

There were a large number of aerial images taken around the time of 1940 (and before as well) and these were used by the team behind WoP extensively. Have you used these too?

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Clickable cocpits.

1. We are not doing completely clickable cockpits. There isn't any button or switch is clickable. We program only these that are using in flight. We don't program all that are using for only the start procedure. And will not use in future. Too much work for a lot of types of cocpits and a lot of functions different from one plane to another.

2. We did popup tips for each gauge or lever, knob, switch that is using in our code for control of aircraft, canopy, etc.

3. We make clickable by mouse these that are useful with the mouse by clicks or clicks+moving (see also item 1). Or will help some third party to program own code with explanation of principles.







All these functions are useful for different devices as well.
If there in future after the release we will find that some devices are not useful, but popular on the market - we may think about addition of other style of control for something.

That is a backward step if i understand this properly.I think the translation may not be very clear [hopefully].
You have seen BoB11 WOV ,some of the switches and controls are clickable or moveable by dragging your mouse over it,it adds a HUGE amount of immersion to the sim.
You can use either the mouse /and or switches you have mapped to your joystick
It is not perfect by all means as some of the hit boxes on the switches are not always 100% accurate BUT it is there if you want to try it.
I hope it will be worked on in the future,after all BOB pilots didn't have multi switched joysticks as we do,they had separate prop pitch levers,fuel cocks,magnetos,they had to do it and fight to survive.
I hope it will be looked into in the future it is a basic ingredient.

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Trumper

That is a backward step if i understand this properly.

Please read above couple of my posts what is clickable cockpit switches instead of serious modeling of the systems or program table starting procedure VS modeling of real systems work

[The Kraken]

Originally Posted by Trumper

I hope it will be worked on in the future,after all BOB pilots didn't have multi switched joysticks as we do,they had separate prop pitch levers,fuel cocks,magnetos,they had to do it and fight to survive.

And did they operate those with a mouse?

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Trumper

after all BOB pilots didn't have multi switched joysticks as we do,they had separate prop pitch levers,fuel cocks,magnetos,they had to do it and fight to survive.
I hope it will be looked into in the future it is a basic ingredient.

Did read you with more attention:
And what the problem with what we are modelling using mouse control?
It seems that you and most didn't understand my sentence that we are modeling these that are using for the flight... all you listed above is for the flight! We have it with possibility to control by the mouse.

We haven't all the switches clickable in the cockpit using for starting proceduere or so. This is other thing than the control in the fligth isn't it?

I think all is clear now?

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Sorry, I see what you mean.

They used aerial images My mistake.

There were a large number of aerial images taken around the time of 1940 (and before as well) and these were used by the team behind WoP extensively. Have you used these too?

When I was asking them for the photos of Dover that they were using they only said that they used the sattelite map... That wasn't interesting for me. And they didn't give me even that photo.
Next time I will think about other forms of business when I'll give the source code and all our own models to third parties for their projects.

I have a lot of photos of Dover from different altitudes and views how it was looking in 1930-40.
There is so many things in reality.... that we even can't model for that time... but it is a bit more detailed that you may find in any other sim.