Why Head Tracking?

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by kimosabi

QFT

I can't believe why some people keep stalling getting a TiR for no other reason than scepticism.

And the fact TiR 5 is $170.00

[Artist]

Sunlight *is* a problem, when the window is at one's back (=the wii or camera pointing at the window...)

[swiss]

I bought a TIR3 cam to try out with FT, now I managed to make this combo work - but only it works reliable in the FT gui.
(TIR Software works too, but due to the different positions(I guess) of the LEDs its feedback sux)
When I try it in IL2, I got major issues with stuttering.

Solution anyone?

[imaca]

Have been curious about TIR, but just too expensive for something I probably wouldn't like. The only advantage to me is 6DOF.
A hat with modifier button can easily be set up to give 17 view positions operated with just 1 thumb, and (for me) is totally instinctive to use. Personally I would be more inclined towards getting a throttle with second hat to use for the other 3DOF.
The nervous system of the hands have the amazing ability to learn tasks, and then offload control of them from the conscious mind (as any musician knows).
By contrast, head control seems very awkward. I can't think of any other system (except for disabled) that uses it.

[albx]

Originally Posted by imaca

Have been curious about TIR, but just too expensive for something I probably wouldn't like. The only advantage to me is 6DOF.
A hat with modifier button can easily be set up to give 17 view positions operated with just 1 thumb, and (for me) is totally instinctive to use. Personally I would be more inclined towards getting a throttle with second hat to use for the other 3DOF.
The nervous system of the hands have the amazing ability to learn tasks, and then offload control of them from the conscious mind (as any musician knows).
By contrast, head control seems very awkward. I can't think of any other system (except for disabled) that uses it.

Try FreeTrack (google for it as i don't know if link are allowed), it's not expensive if you already have a webcam, and you'll never go back....

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by albx

Try FreeTrack (google for it as i don't know if link are allowed), it's not expensive if you already have a webcam, and you'll never go back....

But you have to build it yourself. I wonder when Saitek finally will start to make a cheaper alternative to that much too expencive piece of plastics made by natural point.

[Masi67]

Bought Tir5 about one year ago. Simply like it, runs great on my 7 year old PC.
For years I was using CH Pro Throttles minimouse for viewing. It was good too, but it got weary after years

Pros
- Increases SA alot
- Easy install
- Brings alot of immersion, got me back to Il2
- My neck does not hurt anymore, if I play longs sessions
- Actually helps me in Rolling Scissors and in Scissors.


Cons
- Well, it is expensive
- You need to study settings to get headtracking to work to your personal likings. All those curves, after that it is easy configure.


Oh, I recommend to get trackclip too. You wont loose focus with that one.

-Masi

[albx]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

But you have to build it yourself. I wonder when Saitek finally will start to make a cheaper alternative to that much too expencive piece of plastics made by natural point.

yes.. you're right.. you need to build it yourself... but with an old hat,3 leds and a USB printer cable i made mine, and it works very well. If somebody is interested in a config for the il2 i can send mine, i found it somewere and adjusted for better response...

P.S.
I don't think another company will make a TrackIR alternative, naturalpoint think it's their tecnology and patents... (but nintendo wii remote works like trackir, a small camera that read 2 infrared leds)

Alberto

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Foo'bar

But you have to build it yourself. I wonder when Saitek finally will start to make a cheaper alternative to that much too expencive piece of plastics made by natural point.

It's not the hardware you pay - it's R&D.

Originally Posted by albx

yes.. you're right.. you need to build it yourself... but with an old hat,3 leds and a USB printer cable i made mine,

So your hat is USB powered too?