Would you pre-purchase SOW now to be a part of the Beta team?

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

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Open beta would be a catastrophe. I dare to say over 90% of people would just play it, bitch about it and not methodically test anything. The whinery would go through the roof. If Oleg uses an internal team it is fully understandable as they can have schedules on what to test etc. More efficient IMO. There will for sure be bugs discovered after release everyone can report in.

It's not ClosedBeta vs OpenBeta. That's nonsense.

It's an OpenBeta additional to a ClosedBeta.

[csThor]

So? Given how this community is it would just elevate whining to a totally new level. Or have you perhaps missed the b*tchfest of the last few Friday updates? Why on earth would Oleg take it upon himself to give this whiny bunch of yet another chance to demonstrate just how impolite and aggressive they are? An Open Beta requires a mature community but here we have something that makes a kindergarten look very mature.

[T}{OR]

I personally think it could be a good idea if the feedback that is coming back is checked by (for objective view) qualified people or even better, real pilots.

And to be clear on something - IIRC Oleg clearly stated that there won't be any demo nor any beta testing, at least not any beta testing in the way purposed here. 'In the house beta testing' - yes.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by csThor

Why on earth would Oleg take it upon himself to give this whiny bunch of yet another chance to demonstrate just how impolite and aggressive they are? An Open Beta requires a mature community but here we have something that makes a kindergarten look very mature.

I think you said it all with these two sentences.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

I personally think it could be a good idea if the feedback that is coming back is checked by (for objective view) qualified people or even better, real pilots.

And to be clear on something - IIRC Oleg clearly stated that there won't be any demo nor any beta testing, at least not any beta testing in the way purposed here. 'In the house beta testing' - yes.

+1

[HFC_Dolphin]

Real pilot of such planes is participating in this effort to get the best experience.
Oleg knows where to ask for help and he has it.

Edit: And I'm not talking on behalf of Oleg. Above information is well known to experienced people of our community.

[T}{OR]

I forgot to add one thing - the incident with hacking Oleg's own PC to get the SoW code justifies the decision to not go with an open beta IMO.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by csThor

So? Given how this community is it would just elevate whining to a totally new level. Or have you perhaps missed the b*tchfest of the last few Friday updates? Why on earth would Oleg take it upon himself to give this whiny bunch of yet another chance to demonstrate just how impolite and aggressive they are? An Open Beta requires a mature community but here we have something that makes a kindergarten look very mature.

Well, besides the different pros and cons of an open beta, there are indeed some social factors to consider. And I have to agree with you, that this community does not distinguishing itself as a mature or social group - even beyond the yellow forum-site borders.
I didn't think it would get worse than calling a forum UBIZoo, but if that's a zoo, this is Yellowrassic Parc - much louder, much bigger mouths, but mostly without teeth or enough brains to peel a banana.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Well, besides the different pros and cons of an open beta, there are indeed some social factors to consider. And I have to agree with you, that this community does not distinguishing itself as a mature or social group - even beyond the yellow forum-site borders.
I didn't think it would get worse than calling a forum UBIZoo, but if that's a zoo, this is Yellowrassic Parc - much louder, much bigger mouths, but mostly without teeth or enough brains to peel a banana.

Here we do have updates on a regular basis and developers have good discussion with forum members.

All the other air sim forums, link into our update threads weekly. This forums is the information source for everything about BOB SOW and TD upgrades.

This is Yellowrassic park?

Forums are designed to facilitate discussions, nothing more.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Here we do have updates on a regular basis and developers have good discussion with forum members.

All the other air sim forums, link into our update threads weekly. This forums is the information source for everything about BOB SOW and TD upgrades.

This is Yellowrassic park?

Forums are designed to facilitate discussions, nothing more.

I'm sorry. My interpretation of "discussion" of facts and related knowledge exchange does not cover what is going on here.

Besides that, the first two points are not related to your final statement.

That this is the only source of information and other sites HAVE to link here, is due to the fact that Maddox Games has a close relationship with 1C, not because Oleg likes the forum color or what is going on here.


The fact that Oleg keeps posting here despite the things going on is not something this community can be proud on. It's Oleg who deserves the respect to come here again and again, knowing he gets his screenshots of his beloved sim rubbed in his face in a weekly interval.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

I'm sorry. My interpretation of "discussion" of facts and related knowledge exchange does not cover what is going on here.

Besides that, the first two points are not related to your final statement.

That this is the only source of information and other sites HAVE to link here, is due to the fact that Maddox Games has a close relationship with 1C, not because Oleg likes the forum color or what is going on here.


The fact that Oleg keeps posting here despite the things going on is not something this community can be proud on. It's Oleg who deserves the respect to come here again and again, knowing he gets his screenshots of his beloved sim rubbed in his face in a weekly interval.

Your contribution to the forums is what you make of it, in discussion with other members.

Who cares what color the site? Mellow yellow, or ruby red... the words are the words.

This is a very viable forums for discussions about BOB SOW and TD upgrades. Regardless, of your perceived reasons for that... it still is what it is.

I'm sure there is a more perfect way to do things. No sense going there, because this forums is what it is for now.