Friday 2010-10-01 Dev. update and Discussion

[philip.ed]

That must have taken ages.
It's a great site for looking at the pictures. I favourited it the minute I got linked to it.

[Richie]

From

Oleg Moddox's News...is where I got the old ones


http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2040

[philip.ed]

Ah, I see what you mean. Foo'bar's site really is the dogs. As far as I can see, he has every-SoW picture ever posted there, and some shots that I'd never seen posted before too.

[winny]

Originally Posted by Sutts

I hope everyone noticed the beautiful backlit clouds in the wellington shot. Impressive stuff.

Just thought I'd post this.. Same pic but darker.



Again, I'm not trying to out-do anyone but I've a few of these that I already did. Just shows what you pointed out.

[philip.ed]

Looks quite nice Winny, could job. Would I be alone in saying the clouds could do with a bit more texture? maybe if the 'cauliflower' top-effect of the cumulus clouds could be a bit more defined?



Just an example, these clouds don't best match the ones shown in Oleg's but the representation is clear.

[winny]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Looks quite nice Winny, could job. Would I be alone in saying the clouds could do with a bit more texture? maybe if the 'cauliflower' top-effect of the cumulus clouds could be a bit more defined?



Just an example, these clouds don't best match the ones shown in Oleg's but the representation is clear.

You might have a point, the problem with clouds is they are just so, er.. different. I wouldn't like to say one way or another about the screenshot because I have no idea what the weather is like generally.

I just hope we get lots of variation from thin and wispy to thick and fluffy!

[Hood]

I live in the UK so I'm sick of clouds. Can we discuss something else please?

Hood

ps nice update, can't wait!

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Hood

I live in the UK so I'm sick of clouds. Can we discuss something else please?

Hood

ps nice update, can't wait!

Certainly sir.
The weather looks nice today.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by zapatista

since you seem to need some help with this


Dude,

I

don't

care

if you care or not




neither do i specifically seek tree out, i simply treat him in direct proportion to how he behaves at the time i see his "contribution" (which are turds mostly, all he seem to do is "thread crap")). if he makes "normal" post i mostly ignore him, largely because he usually doesnt really contribute anything interesting or topical anyway

if he continues to be so rude and offensive with his constant petulant little snide remarks which are deliberately directed at oleg and the WiP he is sharing here, then i will continue to treat tree-uk accordingly

in case you missed a post from the 1c moderator earlier in this thread



to which i will add a relevant recent observation posted by a user in another il2 forum where tree-uk sprouts the same constant crap



hear hear !!

it isnt a solution for half the people here to simply put tree on ignore and pretend what he is doing suddenly disappears from the universe. worse, by inaction and passive tollerance of it you are complicit to the problems he creates, which in the end will affect us all (and is affecting us already as you can well see).

having oleg's direct interaction with his fanbase (and him being responsive to it, having incorporated many of the previous good suggestions made), is a PRIVILEGE, and not a "right" to be petulantly abused by a few who are CONSTANTLY and DELIBERATELY disruptive and offensive to him (for years now in tree's case)

I agree with some of your points, although not 100%, and i can see where you're coming from. What makes the two of you similiar in a lot of ways is that Tree is coming off like a backseat-developer and you are coming off like a backseat-moderator. Your winding him up only serves to aggravate things further and get others sucked into your vendetta's debate (just like i'm doing right now) which, for the purposes of SoW, is largely irrelevant and useless to most of the people on this forum. Both you and him make some good points and some noise, like we all do, but when it's the two of you together you both only make noise and nothing else, that's all.

You can't banish him to Alpha Centauri and you can't force him to change his mind, put him on ignore if it vexes you so much and let the moderators deal with it if it needs to be dealt with. It's Oleg's forum after all and i doubt he needs "virtual bodyguards", you think he's so defenceless that he couldn't ask a moderator to ban a few people if he wanted to?


Back on topic, i think we finally managed to come to a bit of an agreement on some things after all this arguing (see, not everything is negative after all). Instead of saying "the terrain is gorgeous" or "the terrain is drawn by a child", we can now pinpoint the strong and weak points. It's very detailed topography-wise with a big draw distance, but not shown with high-res textures which makes the trees stand out too much due to the detail mismatch, plus the varying detail settings applied make it hard to judge it from different altitudes. Amazing it took so many people so long to reach such a simple conclusion, but like a folk saying goes in my country "where a lot of roosters crow, it takes longer for the sun to rise"

As for the clouds, you guys make the mistake of focusing only on cumulus ones. There's several different types with more subtypes and even more combinations among them and if you can "read" them, it can tell you things about the air flow in the area.

The only thing cumulus tells you is that there's rising air nearby, mostly thermals in which gliders can fly. And for the record, there are infact clouds with a rounded bottom if you know where to look for them

[Tempest123]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

I was trying very hard to not get sucked into this but I can't resist anymore.
What a bunch of women.
Is there anyone at all who would like to discuss the sim?
Some of us find logical discourse useful.
Others think 'I'm a celebrity, get me out of here' is highly educational.
Which camp are you in?

Right on, I come here to discuss the sim and aircraft, I get the sense that some folks on here should take a break from this forum and wait until the sim comes out.