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Old 05-02-2010, 06:53 AM
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It was more a question of timing. I don't think anyone involved thought that the extent of Grumman's claims is justified, but AFAIK they got in touch with Ubi shortly before release of PF so they caught everyone on the wrong foot. Checking Grumman's claims would have cost time, time that Ubisoft either didn't want to spend or didn't have (for it would cost a lot of money to hold the release machinery). Had that happened months earlier then I'd bet that a judge would have told Grumman where to shove its claim (keyword: dark and smelly place, no sun).
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Old 05-02-2010, 01:53 PM
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Well, I do hope the entire Grumman affair can be turned around.

Why?

After B0B. the next theater will be the Med. You cannot have Med Ops without the Grumman F4F Wildcat/Martlett for Operation Torch, and it's use by the Royal Navy in general.

Any aircraft from any country that is kept from us because of these petty legal concerns is a loss to all of us.

No single country won the war on it's own, and no country could have won without the help of all the others involved.
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Old 05-02-2010, 03:10 PM
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the story is not 'ignorance of history need not repeat the same mistakes.
But strangely human mistakes are repeated forever and ever in history.
should review and understand the causes and reasons for injustice and motivation strategies that lead the human race to make history war. studying the history and 'an experience the history and' the meaning of what we today.I Young people are obliged to know the story because 'history and you learn new ideas for the future.

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Old 05-02-2010, 10:47 PM
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(keyword: dark and smelly place, no sun).
Damn,not in my classroom...
To the hell with Grumman,what about other planes,like italian,french,polish and english?
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Old 05-03-2010, 10:26 AM
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This is RARE the last photo ww2 of Piaggio p 108 and Pilot BRUNO MUSSOLINI the son of BENITO MUSSOLLINI dead during landing in Pisa yes the piaggio P.108 operating especialy in GIBILTEIR and after go to ENGLAND for battle of brittain but the incident of BENITO MUSSOLINI'S SUN BRUNO abborted the piaggio p108 heavy bombers mission in ENGLAND.


please loock this is original photo and rare of ww2:
http://www.gavs.it/FotodelNonno/Phot...8_polidori.htm
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incident and dead of Bruno Mussolini Code Number of airplane is 22003
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