Friday 2010-01-22 Screenshots AND Discussion Thread

[nearmiss]

I respect all the graphic wish lists, but to be forthright. I'd prefer more tools that let us work with the game play, i.e, programmable mission buiilder, probablistic programming tools for AI performance, weather programming, AI that can't see through clouds, sensible physics, etc.

The stuff that really makes the sim viable is the gameplay. Sure all the graphics is a plus, but delaying the SOW to satisfy all the graphic wishlists will put us even further release of SOW.

We are still all doing this sim with 10 year old graphics and enjoying it. There are plenty of non-graphic things that would give this old hound dog alot of punch.

TD is planning a multi-object editor ability in FMB, AI performance is being tweaked. These kinds of improvements are improvements, graphic improvements are great... but you get used to them pretty darn quick.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Nearmiss..100% agree with you. Graphics are just part of the game. The rest is what makes it good like you mentioned. I prefer playability over eyecandy

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Flanker35M

S!

Nearmiss..100% agree with you. Graphics are just part of the game. The rest is what makes it good like you mentioned. I prefer playability over eyecandy

For the real success on the market should be both in modern time.
And if we are speaking about fligth sims - we should put even more than two these terms.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

For the real success on the market should be both in modern time.
And if we are speaking about fligth sims - we should put even more than two these terms.

Like buildings and objects at 100% of their size relative to the aircraft

[furbs]

lets hope MuxaHuk hasnt been gulaged for posting that fantastic vid and we get to see a few more...because just look how that vid flew across the net and its affect on eveyone here.

[13th Hsqn Protos]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

For the real success on the market should be both in modern time.
And if we are speaking about fligth sims - we should put even more than two these terms.

You can add

1. Proper INGAME server browser/update system/chat/friends/Squadron tools to the list
2. Guid based keys for anticheat systems.
3. Dedicated Linux based server files with built in GUI server controller so that price of hosting is not as ridiculous as today

Oleg, you have to really push these, this time around.

[ECV56_Lancelot]

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

1. Proper INGAME server browser/update system/chat/friends/Squadron tools to the list

Agree.

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

2. Guid based keys for anticheat systems.

In this case i don´t know what you are referring to. It would be nice if you explain a little more this because honestly i got curious.

Originally Posted by 13th Hsqn Protos

3. Dedicated Linux based server files with built in GUI server controller so that price of hosting is not as ridiculous as today

Even if this is something i don´t use, i think its a great idea, because it will allow to squadron lower their expenses on hosting servers.

[AdMan]

graphics push gameplay and vice-versa, that is the evolution of gaming. Like was said, in this age there is expected to be both and in-fact you can't have one without the other, it's much more than "eye candy", it's turning a simulation into an experience. I for one stopped playing Il2 about a year and a half ago, it's simply too dated now compared to the quality if game I'm used to playing, but I am also a retro gamer so one day years from now I will pick it up again for some nostalgia.

[Matze81]

Originally Posted by AdMan

graphics push gameplay and vice-versa, that is the evolution of gaming. Like was said, in this age there is expected to be both and in-fact you can't have one without the other, it's much more than "eye candy", it's turning a simulation into an experience.

I agree 100%!

Up to date graphics are very important, cause that's the first thing that pulls the player into the world / scenario the game presents. Of course once your "there" the gameplay has to be just as good for the imersion to be complete.

[Flanker35M]

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Thank you for the input Oleg, very much appreciated. Sure graphics are a selling factor, but when talking about Your & the team's sims people already know there is much more than just graphics Graphics should not be the only point why people buy a sim, but how it perfroms, accuracy of modeling, mission environment(configuration & tools for making more), technical support, compatability issues etc. I am maybe "oldskool" here, but I do not mind lesser graphics at all. More a fan of balance between graphics and performance even my rig is frequently updated to meet today's requirements. Eagerly waiting for SoW, no doubt about that.