Should 1C/UBI make Steam optional?

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Guys, read what the guy wrote

Originally Posted by Les

This is a deliberately biased poll

The meaning of the poll is simple:
a) there are people who like and use Steam that still think it's a good idea to make it optional so others can choose not to use it
b) not everyone who doesn't want to use Steam is foam-at-the-mouth raving mad

It's a break-down of the "let's make it optional" people into different categories, to show the Steam fans that not all of us hate Steam. We just want a choice and as long it doesn't interfere with the choice of Steam fans all is well.

Finally, i guess it's also one sided because i fully trust and expect a lot among the posters here to answer "no, i want this to be forced on everyone just because i like it" if they had the choice to do so

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

If other games are functioning successfully in both steam and non-steam modes why is there such a big push to assimulate everyone into the collective?


Edit- How about an poll option - I don't mind steam but I would not be able to use the software purchaced in the manner that I wish without viloating the terms of the agreement?

Cheers!

Exactly. We want you to have the choice of using your favorite platform. It's just that some of you are loathe to recognize a similar benefit for those of us with a different opinion. Get real guys, we don't have to like it and this forced assimilation is making us dislike it even more.

Also, what Skoshi said above about the extra poll option is very good...it would give an indication about how many people would go to the trouble of cracking their legally bought game to bypass steam.

Bottom line is we don't want you to like our ways and habits, it's some of you that want to make everyone else like yours. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

Originally Posted by Heliocon

sorry - got to say it! Stupid thread.

And no it should not be optional, that will make it easier to pirate.

Shogun 2 total war is already up on the torrents, plus CoD already has another DRM scheme, so i'm calling bogus on this assessment. You want to use it, fine, go ahead. You want to make me use it when i have no use for it, not fine at all.


That's the bottom line really and the reason the poll is deliberately biased: some people think they have the right to forcibly convert everyone to their personal set of preferences. However, you can easily see that there are also reasonable people among the Steam fans, those who answered "i like it but it should be optional".

I'm repeating myself here but it's not my fault that the same repetitive "arguments" in favor of assimilation are still getting used anyway. If you ask the same question or provide the same reasoning that was already discounted in the past you'll still get the same answer, so here it goes again: the poll is not meant to show support or dislike for Steam, it's meant to provide a breakdown of the different groups of people who think it should be optional, in order to show that even among Steam fans there are people who share this opinion and consider it more beneficial to the community, developers and title's long term life as a whole, than what we are currently getting.

Originally Posted by Voyager

Let me get this straight, you really think only being able to install the game five times is better than having to deal with Steam?

I may not care much about install limits on an FPS I'm going to dumpster in two months, but I was kind of planning on playing CoD for a while. Maybe you're not?

I'm not much of a DRM fan in general, but it seems their system is very similar to the one used in DCS: A10.
Install on up to 3 PCs the moment you get the game, get one activation per month re-credited to you to install on another one. If you still manage to run out, email your cd-key to tech support as proof of purchase and receive 3 activations. I don't think there's many people who will install on 3 PCs right away and then on more than a new PC each month, so it's reasonable.

If they really want to go "portable" they will choose Steam, otherwise they'll stay with Solidshield, that is IF a steam-only version is released.

You see, a lot of steam fans don't seem to realize that just because it's on Steam doesn't mean it won't have Solidshield DRM on top of that. It's been clearly stated that it will require both so no, you can't do away with Solidshield just because it uses Steam (at least from what we currently know from official sources). What does this mean?

As of current knowledge, no matter which version you buy you will still be limited to a pool of 3 initial activations plus a replenishment activation getting credited to the pool once per month. So no, you can't go on and install it on more than 3 PCs on release day just because it uses steam and you have an account there.

Not directed at you personally, but once this bit of information sets in i am fully expecting epic whinning about lack of choice and redundant multi-layered DRM to commence from the same posters who've been poking fun at us for saying the exact same thing the past week or so