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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-12-2012, 01:04 AM
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Where I'm baffled all in is when Raaiid describes not seeing the 3d effect in reality BUT SEEING IT IN A 3D MOVIE!
actually by ailantd description of seeing the bar double in that 3d video im pondering if its you who dont notice 3d in movies

also your comment of keep seeing 3d with one eye closed, that doesnt work in a 3d movie you can test those samples
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:14 AM
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Where I'm baffled all in is when Raaiid describes not seeing the 3d effect in reality BUT SEEING IT IN A 3D MOVIE!
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The problem is that raaid think real 3D is like in the movies, not like in the reality when the wrong effect is in the movies, not in the reality.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:17 AM
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If you think you don´t see 3D in reality raaaid, close one eye, keep that eye closed, then go to the kitchen, open the water, pick a glasss ( in that order ) and only moving the glass, try to fill it. You will realize how hard is it with only one eye. You can try a lot of normal task wich require depth perception with only one eye. You will be sure you see in 3D. And that is to see in 3D, not the wow effect of movies. Inside a cave with correct configuration you don´t have that wow effect from movies, but things are there in their own space and you can feel that as well as in reality.
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Old 04-12-2012, 03:11 AM
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Raaaid, I always thought 3d movies were a social event where everyone partakes in the coolness of wearing sunglasses in a darkened room!

Seriously, please try what Ailantd is suggesting. You will realise how wonderful your eyesight and brain really are.
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Old 04-12-2012, 02:32 PM
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well ailan is right i can fill a glass of water better with two eyes than with one eye

but thats not cuase i see in stereo but because my eyes do triangulation with wich i know the distance

but this is not an stereo perception, an stereo perception is that that you have in a 3d movie, real life depth perception is based on triangulation as the wiki points

i think i know why i(we?) dont have stereo perception in real life but do in 3d movies

you point it out yourself:

for the projected image to be right YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CENTER OF IT, if you look to a corner of the image the projection now is wrong, even with the cave case(unless you track your eyes and correct the projection according where youre eyes are looking at which i doubt)

so in artificial 3d your simulating the paralax of your eyes fixed which you CANT do in real life(you always cross the rays of the eyes in the object youre looking at)

again i doubt you have real stereo perception in real life according my research

to have stereo percepetion you need an amazing concious control of the near triad as the mayas(eye lens, parallax, iris opening)

this guy has not an eye problem but is setting depth perception on maximum as to look at the stars:



of course i lack that level of stereopsis, i can very slightly cross my eyes, intensifying depth perception, before losing it and start seeing double

the main problem with this is breaking the near triad sync, its very difficult cross the eyes and not lose focus though i can do it each day better

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theres a key point here which backs me up:

if in real life you close one eye you keep seeing the same, if in a 3d movie you close one eyes you lose depth perception TOTALLY

this is so self evident that negating the evidence makes you deluded, a majoritarial delusion, but still deluded nagating reality

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this is how anglienls see( you have to look through it to see it)



thats why theyre invisible, yet you can see them with the corner of your eye



also do you spot why this tank wouldnt be invisible if we had real 3d perception?



the biggest advance in stereoscopy was in wwii where pictures from planes separated km away would be looked in stereo to detect camouflaged airports

how do you fight that invisible tank bs?

well im not designing weapons but its pretty easy to figure out, the same way you would to see an angel, look in stereo
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