Request to the moderators

[JG52Uther]

Originally Posted by Osprey

I've just replied to a post of yours which you've since removed from this thread and that changes the context of what I'd written entirely. How the thread now reads is that I mention you before you've even posted! Please don't do that, or it may undermine my confidence in moderators.....

Thats sig worthy!

[kendo65]

I'd be in favour of Klem's suggestion. Suggested something similar over a year ago - a tightly moderated official update thread with only comments/questions specifically related to the announcement, along with a separate 'Discussion / thrashing' thread where people can indulge themselves in the usual 'debate' over what it all means.

Can foresee difficulty for the mods in enforcing the line - people can get pretty slippery and/or aggrieved. I also doubt whether people have the necessary discipline or patience to make it work.

Which is a good place to say sorry for my own little outburst in the update thread. Not averse to the red mists at times. Feel pretty stupid afterwards though. Silly to let it get to me like that, but could not believe the reaction to what I thought was a decent update.

[SlipBall]

Since so much of the clutter is from just a few individuals. It would be nice if the software could limit your post to 4 entries in the update thread...heck, in all of the threads would be better

[6BL Bird-Dog]

Originally Posted by klem

The goal is to obtain clear information from the developers and to provide the opportunity to ask or to see clear questions specifically on the update information and find the devs answers.

There are no sinister intentions here. Don't confuse suppressive censorship with trying to keep important Threads meaningful, on topic and free of Trolls.

I am a forum user just like you but I get sick of wading through a pile of vitriol and often childish arguments when what I want from an update thread is to easily find the information it gives and to see relevant questions and answers. There are plenty of threads where people can argue themselves blue in the face and hurl insults at eachother if they want.

I think you must see that many posts in the last update thread were just a battle of personalised vitriol and repeated complaints that we've all seen so many times before and that do not specifically reference the update information. Its not that some of the complaints aren't valid and I understand that more recent purchasers of CoD will want to come here and register their point of view but that isn't what the update threads are for. Do we really have to wade through all of that every time to find the useful information? My suggestion is simply that certain Threads be given a special status that keeps them useful.

As for members that get a ban, some of them seem to enjoy only being deliberately and boringly provocative on the same old subjects, again and again and again and again, questions that have already been answered, again and again and again. It reduces them to Trolls and personally I'm glad the moderators are taking a stronger line. I come here to find useful information and help if I can, not to wade through a pile of nonsense that wouldn't be tolerated in a kids classroom.

+1

[Ribbs67]

Sorry 6BL Birddog.... That im requsting this right after your post.. but while were on the topic of keeping the update thread clean, I wish we could get rid of all the "quoted" + 1... And +100000 posts also. I find them very redundant, and not needed. I feel like they clog up the thread just as much as the Trolling thats going on. I read the update by Luthier and BlackSix and thought it was a decent update, but it took about 5-6 posts for the negativity to start flowing in. 30+ pages in like 10hrs of being posted.. ridiculous. The moderators cant be around 24-7 to ensure the thread dosent become poluted.. I see the only option would be to have the update thread locked from the beginning and have a seperate discussion thead all together. That way people cant say they are being censored... Just redirected.....

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by Ribbs67

Sorry 6BL Birddog.... That im requsting this right after your post.. but while were on the topic of keeping the update thread clean, I wish we could get rid of all the "quoted" + 1... And +100000 posts also. I find them very redundant, and not needed. I feel like they clog up the thread just as much as the Trolling thats going on.

+1

Sorry, couldn't resist!

[Ribbs67]

Haha... it just takes Sooo long to scroll through with my smartphone.. My legs fall asleep sitting on the throne!

In all seriousness ..I feel if your going to throw up another post and use a quote from someone.. add something viable to it, and dont just throw in a +1..just to pad your post count..

[jimbop]

Yes, agree with the sentiment and lol at the location!

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by klem

The goal is to obtain clear information from the developers and to provide the opportunity to ask or to see clear questions specifically on the update information and find the devs answers.

There are no sinister intentions here. Don't confuse suppressive censorship with trying to keep important Threads meaningful, on topic and free of Trolls.

I am a forum user just like you but I get sick of wading through a pile of vitriol and often childish arguments when what I want from an update thread is to easily find the information it gives and to see relevant questions and answers. There are plenty of threads where people can argue themselves blue in the face and hurl insults at eachother if they want.

I think you must see that many posts in the last update thread were just a battle of personalised vitriol and repeated complaints that we've all seen so many times before and that do not specifically reference the update information. Its not that some of the complaints aren't valid and I understand that more recent purchasers of CoD will want to come here and register their point of view but that isn't what the update threads are for. Do we really have to wade through all of that every time to find the useful information? My suggestion is simply that certain Threads be given a special status that keeps them useful.

As for members that get a ban, some of them seem to enjoy only being deliberately and boringly provocative on the same old subjects, again and again and again and again, questions that have already been answered, again and again and again. It reduces them to Trolls and personally I'm glad the moderators are taking a stronger line. I come here to find useful information and help if I can, not to wade through a pile of nonsense that wouldn't be tolerated in a kids classroom.

I have been active member on these boards for over 5 years, most of the time as a lone moderator. I've learned to respect the members and opinions. Yes we have errant posters, which will always be the case.

This thread created by you is evidence of moderator tolerance. The forums rules prohibit criticism of moderators. Our moderators know that all update threads eventually become a venue for negative posters. Go back and review some of them. Moderators would prefer negative posters be contained on that thread, than extend their transgression range into the rest of the forums.

I respect the fact you are a veteran poster here and you are being accorded some slack. Don't tell us how to moderate or make accusations. This is the busiest IL2 and COD forums on the internet. We have an excellent team of experienced, intelligent and tolerant moderators.

The tone of your posting indicates your frustration. I suggest you might want to think to spend time on another forums where you will be more comfortable. Drop back in every now and then to get the latest COD news.

[Ribbs67]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

I have been active member on these boards for over 5 years, most of the time as a lone moderator. I've learned to respect the members and opinions. Yes we have errant posters, which will always be the case.

This thread created by you is evidence of moderator tolerance. The forums rules prohibit criticism of moderators. Our moderators know that all update threads eventually become a venue for negative posters. Go back and review some of them. Moderators would prefer negative posters be contained on that thread, than extend their transgression range into the rest of the forums.

I respect the fact you are a veteran poster here and you are being accorded some slack. Don't tell us how to moderate or make accusations. This is the busiest IL2 and COD forums on the internet. We have an excellent team of experienced, intelligent and tolerant moderators.

The tone of your posting indicates your frustration. I suggest you might want to think to spend time on another forums where you will be more comfortable. Drop back in every now and then to get the latest COD news.

Nearmiss...I really don't think that was his intentions at all with this thread. He is frustrated as we all are of the way the threads spiral out of control with in hours of Luthier and BlackSix posting. We all realize that there isn't always a moderator present at all times, and you are right about how busy these forums are.(there could be atleast 5-10 pages of banter before a moderator makes it in)... You guys do the best job you can, trying to keep things civil around here.. but its a vicious and never ending battle. Klem is one of the most helpful guys out there when it comes to offering to help people in need of getting there game running. He wasn't attacking you, nor telling you how to do your job.. he was offering up a suggestion. I respect your position of authority, but I feel that response was a bit unwarranted....He definitely is a voice of reason, and does what he can to help make this sim succeed.... S!

I will humbly accept my ban now...