Battle of Chernobyl

[onchas]

Originally Posted by swiss

Atm we have exactly ZERO alternatives to NPPs.

That doesn't excuse the choice of Light Water Reactors (the predominant uranium reactors used in the world; sometimes called "solid fuel reactors") over Molten Salt Reactors (Thorium Reactor; sometimes called "liquid fuel reactors").

http://www.wired.com/magazine/tag/thorium/

[Sternjaeger II]

The whole thing with Rossi is a bit of a clever loophole: if his claims are real,the discovery could change the face of modern economy. Frankly I'm really curious to see what's gonna happen with it: if the man disappears one day it'd be the evidence it works...

Frankly though I'd put all of the economic matters aside and make a donation to humanity: here's the solution to our energy problems, but then again I'm not
him..

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by onchas

That doesn't excuse the choice of Light Water Reactors (the predominant uranium reactors used in the world; sometimes called "solid fuel reactors") over Molten Salt Reactors (Thorium Reactor; sometimes called "liquid fuel reactors").

http://www.wired.com/magazine/tag/thorium/

That's capitalism getting in the way again..

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

That's capitalism getting in the way again..

You really need to get off the anti-capitalism thing, because it's just ideology. You need to think outside the box and not embrace what you have been led to believe. Think critically and objectively.

The problem is governments allow, prohibit, restrict, etc. Government has all the power. Yes governments fail to take action often, yet they aren't weak, and yes they are often compromised by ism influences. You don't have to think too much to realize government is the root cause of enabling and inhibiting all isms.

The government wants you to blame an ism, because it leverages their power even more as people are distracted from the real causes.

Who controls military? government
Who controls taxation?government
Who controls judicial systems? government
Who controls monetary systems?government
Who controls entitlement systems?government
Who controls voting process?government
etc.,etc.

Just like the executioners axe... He distracts the victim to look away, swings his axe and off goes the victims head.

Capitalism is easy. Everyone knows they want to make profit and increase shareholder equity. That's it, and it's obvious as the nose on your face. Yes capitalist want to achieve their goals, but government has the power to make things go as they should for the will of their constituency. Government can make laws and enforce them against contrary performances of capitalists, a simple fact and all governments know it. Governments make the choices and often do not favor their countrymen.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Kodoss

The problem by renewable energy is not the production of it or its mainenance. The problem is that you have to storage it for the time, when their is no wind or sun shining.

But even for that their are solutions, you have only to convice the citizens(worst job ever).

You'd have to be able to store Energy for 45-60 days for whole Europe.
Have fun convincing Norway to flood its country...

Originally Posted by Bewolf

I agree, becoming more efficient in regards to energy waste is a big part of the equation. That also means lots of people having to get rid of their convinience in their daily lives, but pressing a button or shutting down the light can't be such a huge sacrifice.

Funny you mention that.
The replacement of my old Sony TV with a LG Plama(0.5W stby) plus a better PC added a mere 1500kWhrs to my bill, that's a 40% raise.
Sure, we could save energy in some places, but overall our consumption will increase, a lot.

speaking of energy consumption and mass market gaming heres a trivial little fact,

if your a console user lets say xbox 360, by buying a brand new xbox slim, it pays for itself in energy consumption compared to the previous models. youd be silly not to if you were a 360 user.

lol go green buy yet another xbox model !

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by swiss

Funny you mention that.
The replacement of my old Sony TV with a LG Plama(0.5W stby) plus a better PC added a mere 1500kWhrs to my bill, that's a 40% raise.
Sure, we could save energy in some places, but overall our consumption will increase, a lot.

True in some regards, but omitting some other developments. Washing machines, freezers, cars and lots of other stuff have dropped in consumption and increased in efficiency quite considerable over the last 10 years. And back to computer tech, current developments there also go for increased effiencies. Media applications aside, I do not see much danger in increased energy requirements from what we are at, to the opposite, there still is a huge potential for a decrease.

Btw, 1500kWhrs is huge, even if taking the larger consumption of Plasmas over regular TVs into account. So either you got yourself ripped off or you are running those things through unholy times. =)
At least such figures do not apply to your 08/15 folks.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Ali Fish

speaking of energy consumption and mass market gaming heres a trivial little fact,

if your a console user lets say xbox 360, by buying a brand new xbox slim, it pays for itself in energy consumption compared to the previous models. youd be silly not to if you were a 360 user.

lol go green buy yet another xbox model !

I'd love to see this calculation.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by ingsoc84

The Germans shutting off their Nuclear reactors? Great..so one day when Russia decides they need to pay more for natural gas/electricity and they don't like the price, the Russians can shut it off during the winter just like they did in the Ukraine a few years ago, that ought to work out well.

Given the fact that in the course of the last forty years any gains made by nuclear power in Germany were privatized while any costs (for security, for exploring potential nuclear waste depots etc) were socialized I really prefer to deal with the russians for their gas than feed this festering pit of "old boy connections" any further. As Bewolf said - even in the darker times of the Cold War the Russians were reliable business partners when it came to purchasing and delivering gas.

Originally Posted by swiss

I'd love to see this calculation.

well its out there, in basic terms the slim uses 50% that the original models did.