landscape of official storm of war trailer

[Wolf_Rider]

you still making friends there, LoBi?

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

you still making friends there, LoBi?

Yes! And flying with FreeTrack full support! How life is going here in NP?

[Meusli]

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

Here it is ingame colors. Simply other time of day...
However I agree that tunes of the colors should be done in future. It isn't simply there in the game just gamma or RGB. In realoity there is done very compex mix of real light laws. It is very hard to get them alos like the human eye will see it. From another point of view, how it is done with physics - it is right. Color changed depending time of day, altitude, thickness of air masses, etc

Like all subjects on this forum it has been touched upon before. Maybe we should get weekly apologies from Luthier so we can all feel better. Let them sort out the game first colours second.

[furbs]

Yer...your right, its only been 4 months now.

[Jatta Raso]

people are entitled to make criticism, it's their right and there are plenty reasons for that. i just can't understand these childish intolerance towards criticism from some.. what's the point, do they like it so much they don't want to even hear about 'change'? do they think they own the thing? WHAT ?????????? IS THERE A POINT? always keeping with the whining and bitching because some people express and justify their views.. and they call us whiners.. when that's all these ppl do, never bringing anything to the discussion except "it's ok as it is" "i know better, you don't" "i'm smart, your dumb" "i can see, you're blind" etc.. empty, childish, and above all pointless. those who criticize do it so because they want CoD to get as good as it can. those who whine about justified complaints, i'd really like to see their point. maybe they ignore the reason of this thread; take a look at the vid in OP, we've been lied, plain and simple, not saying intentionally, but nevertheless

personally what hurts me the most is to see that things looked better in previous stages, seeing much simpler games out there having much better landscape (yes WoP, and if you don't like the green colour all over then compare in grayscale, works just the same because it's not a colour issue; trees, tree placement, towns and tiling just end up looking plain better); as for landscape not being a central feature, that's much more debatable than colour grading and such; i for one like immersion and want as believable terrain as it gets; i don't think anyone else taste on this matter is more important or overrides my own; i've seen simpler or older sim games conveying the feeling of england countryside much better than CoD (hello BoB 2). it's not a matter of HW resources, rather an art direction and the time spent with it. i'd say the countryside on CoD looks good. BUT I'LL BE DAMNED IF RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE ENGLAND!!

[Wolf_Rider]

the np is just fine LoBi ... FT is getting rather bugged, or so I've been reading

oh LoBi, and btw way, the landscaping in COD needs a major overhaul

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Jatta Raso

people are entitled to make criticism, it's their right and there are plenty reasons for that. i just can't understand these childish intolerance towards criticism from some.. what's the point, do they like it so much they don't want to even hear about 'change'? do they think they own the thing? WHAT ?????????? IS THERE A POINT? always keeping with the whining and bitching because some people express and justify their views.. and they call us whiners.. when that's all these ppl do, never bringing anything to the discussion except "it's ok as it is" "i know better, you don't" "i'm smart, your dumb" "i can see, you're blind" etc.. empty, childish, and above all pointless. those who criticize do it so because they want CoD to get as good as it can. those who whine about justified complaints, i'd really like to see their point. maybe they ignore the reason of this thread; take a look at the vid in OP, we've been lied, plain and simple, not saying intentionally, but nevertheless

personally what hurts me the most is to see that things looked better in previous stages, seeing much simpler games out there having much better landscape (yes WoP, and if you don't like the green colour all over then compare in grayscale, works just the same because it's not a colour issue; trees, tree placement, towns and tiling just end up looking plain better); as for landscape not being a central feature, that's much more debatable than colour grading and such; i for one like immersion and want as believable terrain as it gets; i don't think anyone else taste on this matter is more important or overrides my own; i've seen simpler or older sim games conveying the feeling of england countryside much better than CoD (hello BoB 2). it's not a matter of HW resources, rather an art direction and the time spent with it. i'd say the countryside on CoD looks good. BUT I'LL BE DAMNED IF RIGHT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE ENGLAND!!

Well said!

[Baron]

And, believe it or not, the devs doesn't have to listen. U might think they have to because u are entitled, but they really don't have to. If they think its fine there really isn't much u can do about it and if they do change it its because they CHOOSE to listen.

Cold hard truth, i know.

As for making changes, the quote from Oleg in another post should tell u that it MIGHT not be so easy as most of the "experts" in here think. The colour changes has to correspond with lighting conditions, times of day, dynamic lighting etc.etc. What is the point of having dynamic lighting, dynamic weather (when it arrives) if the "perfect" colours etc. only looks "perfect" at 12.00 noon

Its one thing for a modder to do it since he doesn't have to pay any attention to the rest of the game and how the "whole" works (and they rarely do) but another matter entirely if u have to stand by your work towards a boat load of "experts" for years to come. Because, as we all know, there are quite a few in these forums that have a real hard time letting go.

As for how it looks now, i couldn't care less if some people think it doesnt look like ENGLAND because the colour is a bit off, or if the trees isn't placed correctly (seriously?) because, as a WHOLE, it looks good to me and as far as i know IT IS a BoB flight sim, u know, the one that took place up in the sky, And NOT a "true representation of ENGLAND" sim. There are other more important things to do first.

But who knows, maby the change will appear one day because the CHOSE to listen, even if they don have to.


BTW. This: "those who whine about justified complaints, i'd really like to see their point." Tells me everyone who have a "complaint" or want a fix automatically assumes he is right and anyone who disagrees is a "whiner" and is therefore not entitled to think "it looks ok". Not a very mature approach, is it? Tells me the "problem" lies in those who have "legitimate complaints" to begin with. Takes us right back to: the devs can do whatever the like and think whatever they want, its their product, their choise to listen or not listen. Just because u bought a COPY doesn't automaticaly make u the CeO of the company. For ex. from my end (regarding this issue) u saying BoBII represents a better representation of England than CoD is something i cant for the life of me rap my head around, i just cant. Imo that game looks like ****** (insert bad word). So, in your opinion, who should the devs listen to? Or maby its easier for them if they go by what THEY think?

[robtek]

You said it Baron!!!

It is very astounding what people think, they have bought for about 50 bucks.

The americans, i think, have this saying: love it or leave it.
I wonder how so many people can express their love only in the range from critisizing (constantly) to outright bashing (also constantly).
That reminds me of a dad, spanking his son for some minor offense, saying: it is only for your best.

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

It's really fun: we have an 1:1 map of BOB scenario, filled with towns, roads, railroads, forest, all elevations, rivers, cliffs, landmarks, etc, but it's all "crap or poor landscape"... My God! Listen to your words!

Some just don't deserve the work made in this title. Never in my life I saw so negative people! You make me a little sick...

generally my thoughts on the matter. To come up with this negativity for me means you are comparing COD with other games out there. That is the unfair part. Compare COD to somthing more appropriate and its very likely that debate would see COD at the top of the list. bar any colour discussions in respects of colouring i believe there is an issue.