BF109 - Can't we just have the gunsight in the middle? - Page 24

Hatch · #**231** 04-22-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lixma

Yeah, as Dayglow mentioned in his previous post our 2D displays keep everything in focus. Although I suppose a ROF-like blurred foreground effect may help?

Speaking personally it wouldn't bother me. The last thing i'm focussed on in a dogfight is what the reflector glass is doing.

Well everything is in focus, so shouldn't this be the next step?
Blurring whatever your not looking at.
maybe linked to your tracking device.

#**232** 04-22-2011, 05:32 PM

I like the idea of Hatch as such but as others pointed out it won't work very well with what we have now (only head tracking). But I think it is rather an aesthetical issue without functionality than something essential adding to the simulation aspect however.

Lixma · #**233** 04-22-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatch

Well everything is in focus, so shouldn't this be the next step?
Blurring whatever your not looking at.
maybe linked to your tracking device.

How would the PC know what to blur and what focus on?

All a head tracking device does is tell the PC where to centre the on-screen image. The PC has no clue as to where the users' eyes are actually looking. As such it can't make any reliable deductions about which part of the screen should be in focus or blurred.

EDIT: Dayglow beat me to it.

EDIT: So did Stormcrow.

JG52Krupi · #**234** 04-22-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lixma

How would the PC know what to blur and what focus on?

All a head tracking device does is tell the PC where to centre the on-screen image. The PC has no clue as to where the users' eyes are actually looking. As such it can't make any reliable deductions about which part of the screen should be in focus or blurred.

EDIT: Dayglow beat me to it.

EDIT: So did Stormcrow.

The technology is there ROF uses it, but you have to turn off AA to select it.

Lixma · #**235** 04-22-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

The technology is there ROF uses it, but you have to turn off AA to select it.

It's a psuedo-effect. It just tracks your head position and blurs the outer edges. Like a fuzzy tunnel. If I want to glance at my instruments I have to physically move my head down to 'de-blur' them.

We'll need iris scanners (or something) for a PC to even begin to guess where we are actually was looking, and therefore which area of the screen to blur.

I was going to grab a few pictures to illustrate but the ROF mothership is on the dark side at the moment.

JG52Krupi · #**236** 04-22-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lixma

It's a psuedo-effect. It just tracks your head position and blurs the outer edges. Like a fuzzy tunnel. If I want to glance at my instruments I have to physically move my head down to 'de-blur' them.

We'll need iris scanners (or something) for a PC to even begin to guess where we are actually was looking, and therefore which area of the screen to blur.

I was going to grab a few pictures to illustrate but the ROF mothership is on the dark side at the moment.

I understand where you are coming from but you clearly do not understand the drain on resources that implementing these will have on a already system pushing game.

I agree that at present track ir users do have more of an advantage than they had compared to 1946. The best they could do at the moment would be to remove the head locking in the shift f1 view.

Lixma · #**237** 04-22-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

I understand where you are coming from but you clearly do not understand the drain on resources that implementing these will have on a already system pushing game.

What on Earth are you talking about?

JG52Krupi · #**238** 04-22-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lixma

What on Earth are you talking about?

The team are working on other things at this moment in time, all I am saying is that don't except any changes soon.

Sorry i did not mean to be offensive.

#**239** 04-22-2011, 06:46 PM

The most important thing to retain on this thread is that we have come to the conclusion that the aim circle should be wobbling freely as long as one of both virtual eyes can see the full aim circle on the reflector glas. The dev team should take notice of this and hopefully implement this in one of the next patches.

Lixma · #**240** 04-22-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

The team are working on other things at this moment in time, all I am saying is that don't except any changes soon.

Sorry i did not mean to be offensive.

The tone of the your post suggested you had caught me out in some hideously embarrassing gaffe!

Wasn't offended....just genuinely baffled that's all.

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Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

The most important thing to retain on this thread is that we have come to the conclusion that the aim circle should be wobbling freely as long as one of both virtual eyes can see the full aim circle on the reflector glas. The dev team should take notice of this and hopefully implement this in one of the next patches.

Huzzah! (etc...)