Ever Wondered About CLOD Sales?

ElAurens · #1 02-13-2012, 04:45 PM

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/53111/i...iffs-of-dover/

How does 10,000 +/- sound?

Pretty sobering number.

Now you know why moving to the sequel is so important.

We are a tiny niche market.

Giving us demanding flight simmers what we want (more of everything) is a nearly impossible economic model with the numbers of players the sim has.

Jughead Jones · #2 02-13-2012, 05:03 PM

Is VGChartz reputable? I could not find where they pull there numbers from. If so that is a shame about IL2 COD. I wish more people enjoyed simming.

With the reviews about this game on launch though it is less than suprising. If only we had closer to BF3 numbers than we would probably be flying a much more finished product.

SlipBall · #3 02-13-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/53111/i...iffs-of-dover/

How does 10,000 +/- sound?

Pretty sobering number.

Now you know why moving to the sequel is so important.

We are a tiny niche market.

Giving us demanding flight simmers what we want (more of everything) is a nearly impossible economic model with the numbers of players the sim has.

Oh well...I always pushed to include a civilian element to the sim

pupo162 · #4 02-13-2012, 05:10 PM

are they considering Russia in europe?

this always confuses me.

10.000 x lets say 30 euro = 300.000 euro. not that much, but given the game state......

RedToo · #5 02-13-2012, 05:13 PM

According to them Flight Simulator X is only 20,000 units .....

RedToo.

5./JG27.Farber · #6 02-13-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pupo162

are they considering Russia in europe?

this always confuses me.

10.000 x lets say 30 euro = 300.000 euro. not that much, but given the game state......

You forgot to factor for Europe - Ubisofts cut and tax, currency exchange costs. Wether the game is a disk copy or D2D... Disk copies must be shipped, hauled. If you were talking about the actual amount of cash 1c getsper copy, its closer to 10.

Ahhh just another day in the rumour mill... Next you will all be bleating that 1c is going bust.

von Brühl · #7 02-13-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pupo162

are they considering Russia in europe?

this always confuses me.

10.000 x lets say 30 euro = 300.000 euro. not that much, but given the game state......

Almost half of Russia is in Europe no? I would think RU figures probably aren't in there, but should be. Seeing how the game is called something else, and doesn't need Steam in RU, I bet those numbers don't include the Russian sales.

TheEnlightenedFlorist · #8 02-13-2012, 05:45 PM

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=139961

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The reason is that we don't have a way of tracking digital sales.

Seeing as how Cliffs of Dover is a Steam game, they're probably missing a lot of sales...

Rowddy · #9 02-14-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TheEnlightenedFlorist

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=139961

Seeing as how Cliffs of Dover is a Steam game, they're probably missing a lot of sales...

Amen!! But that's their own fault for choosing that path. I would love to see Steam go the sooner the better. That programm is the pest and the best reason ever to switch to a game console. The second reason sales are bad is the fact that not everyone plays online CLOD. The number of people that play offline is greater they ever expected, and just that part of the game is unplayable

But at least (i hope) they are trying to fix. Steam will always be crap.

nearmiss · #10 02-13-2012, 05:54 PM

All the developer has to do is provide a star wars, or newbie clickon for those types of users.

There are features built in that do that, but it is easy to forget the newbs and people that are into that genre are gamer mentality.

All developers know what they are up against. I appreciate all the efforts on our behalf as dedicated air combat sim enthusiats, but if number of boxes sold is important they have to find a way to capture that business.

You can't do it with a bunch of click ons,complex configuration, setups and advance quality hardware items.

They have to think of ways to get people involved with a few simple clickons and minimum hardware requirements to get started. Then have the ability for interested users to move to more advance levels.

There are several cheap joysticks AV8R, etc., that will fill the bill for cheap entry hardware. The graphics enhancement need a progressive way to access better and better graphics, but there must be lower graphic requirements for newbs. Getting people involved with the COD is the secret to more users.

I have given away numerous copies of the IL2 sturmovik 1946, and I don't think there is a single one of those people that even have it on their HDD at this time. Why is that I ask myself?

There have been plenty of air combat games released and people do buy them, because they keep coming to market.

Facts are facts, and the COD with C.E.M. and other complexities aren't a best start for anyone. There are just too many things competing for people's free or leisure time. W.O.W - Everquest have captured huge market. Anyone planning a game of any kind should carefully strategize with those game in mind. IMO, they remind me of Pachinko. Redundant hacking or beating on enemies is boring in about 3 minutes.

There is something to say about rewards system that is sure, which is pretty low priority with IL2 and COD. Hitler believed in awards and accolades for sure, and had a zillion medals for anyone did well.

I've often though no one should enter the game except at lowest levels, and advance in rank and medals. There was quite abit of this with early release of IL2, but the way to acquire the advancement was hampered by the AI that were terrible and the stupid mission and campaign scenarios. It was better to just become a flight leaders to start with high rank, because following the AI probably meant you would never get anywhere.

So rewards system has to be carefully planned for maintaining user interest.