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Old 09-17-2011, 04:52 AM
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Default Reno air crash ( P51 )

P51 slams into spectator area. Holy moly , it looks like a Stuka !

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Old 09-17-2011, 06:31 AM
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yeah that's all over fox news . . . prayers go out to those involved and the pilot . . .


its funny on the news they keep going on how the plane was made in WW 2, it's not safe because it was made back in the 1st age before Númenor and the rings of power . . .

that we can have more safety standards and better planes . . . and back then we did what we could but now is not 1940's . . .

how they need to ban them, no more people spectating in bleacher seats next to runways and how unregulated Reno is . . .

and then they go how they should regulate it like airlines, and how air racing is unprofessional . . .

it didn't help that they had the fan talking about saying its like barnstorming in the 1920's, there is that danger factor . . . oh boy give them more ammo

man, the news gots more spin than all the DJ's in New York City, London, and Ibiza . . .


they had some FAA guys/gals watching too . . .

pretty soon you won't be able to spectate at the races . . .

i just hope they don't ban the unlimited category and fix the races so you can only use modern, composite planes with ceramic engines and cockpits with surround airbags etc . . .


I mean the pilots understand the danger, and kudos for those keeping the warbirds in a condition where they can participate in the races.


dang and the redbull had a good thing goin, it was cool to be into air racing like it is F1 or NASCAR.

I just hope they don't go overboard and ban / put so many restrictions its not worth air racing . . .

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Old 09-17-2011, 06:43 AM
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Horrendous. It's been a bad season what with the loss of Big Beautiful Doll at Duxford and then the mysterious fatal crash of one of the Red Arrows.
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Old 09-17-2011, 07:23 AM
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Said on the B B C news the pilot was 74 and in good health, plane was a P51 Mustang, hit one of the main seating areas, possible mechanical failure , 3-4 dead including pilot, but that sounded like it could be a higher number from how they decribed the scene.
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Old 09-17-2011, 07:42 AM
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yeah that's all over fox news . . . prayers go out to those involved and the pilot . . .


its funny on the news they keep going on how the plane was made in WW 2, it's not safe because it was made back in the 1st age before Númenor and the rings of power . . .

that we can have more safety standards and better planes . . . and back then we did what we could but now is not 1940's . . .

how they need to ban them, no more people spectating in bleacher seats next to runways and how unregulated Reno is . . .

and then they go how they should regulate it like airlines, and how air racing is unprofessional . . .

it didn't help that they had the fan talking about saying its like barnstorming in the 1920's, there is that danger factor . . . oh boy give them more ammo

man, the news gots more spin than all the DJ's in New York City, London, and Ibiza . . .


they had some FAA guys/gals watching too . . .

pretty soon you won't be able to spectate at the races . . .

i just hope they don't ban the unlimited category and fix the races so you can only use modern, composite planes with ceramic engines and cockpits with surround airbags etc . . .


I mean the pilots understand the danger, and kudos for those keeping the warbirds in a condition where they can participate in the races.


dang and the redbull had a good thing goin, it was cool to be into air racing like it is F1 or NASCAR.

I just hope they don't go overboard and ban / put so many restrictions its not worth air racing . . .

I always thought these racing P-51's were replicas made to more modern standards and with modern materials. If they are indeed 70 years old I can understand the concern.

Personally I'm torn and would almost prefer they flew them for show only, with more leniency and less stress on the airframe, that way we would have these birds around a lot longer, as historic icons. On the other hand, I do enjoy me a good race between any old pieces of machinery, be it cars, planes or steamrollers.


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Old 09-17-2011, 09:40 AM
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Sounds like a really good idea to let a 74 year old fly in that venue (high stake racing).


Wonder why we don't see that more often in say F1.


Condolences to those who died needlessly.



P.S. Not insulting the pilot or anyone, more the setup/phenomenon that is Unlimited Reno Air Racing = Extreme risk no rules no restriction what's the point racing. Imo.

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Old 09-17-2011, 10:33 AM
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Duplicate thread by the way. This one was first: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=26260
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Old 09-17-2011, 01:30 PM
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terrible accident but...


like it or not this man was way to old to get behind a fast ww2 warbird,
again always takes a disaster before changes made.


FAA needs to rethink safety at airshows and more health checkups for all
pilots young and old to get behind a cockpit to fly , fit enough for certain aircraft types to control fly.

also other note ,imo crowds at this event where far to close to runway display areas, officials made a wrong judgement here.
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Old 09-17-2011, 08:45 PM
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Sounds like a really good idea to let a 74 year old fly in that venue (high stake racing).


Wonder why we don't see that more often in say F1.


Condolences to those who died needlessly.



P.S. Not insulting the pilot or anyone, more the setup/phenomenon that is Unlimited Reno Air Racing = Extreme risk no rules no restriction what's the point racing. Imo.
PERFECT EXAMPLE of ignorant person spewing emotion tainted garbage the hurts everyone!!!1!one!

You sir, have GRIEVOUSLY INSULTED the family, air show events, the entire aviation community, and motor sports as well!

Car races and boat races kill participants and spectators EVERY YEAR. Why should air races be held to a different standard?

People operate dangerous machines into there 80's perfectly safely (and are medically checked out)

ALL organization endeavor to safety but nothing is 100%. It was years since the last spectator was injured in an aviation related accident.



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Old 09-17-2011, 08:52 PM
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Now that is all the evidence I need to see........christ! poor guy had no chance.
Negative!

Trim tabs do not fly the airplane, they HELP fly the airplane!

That said, flying that fast it would be very difficult to fight the forces and control it.


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