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Originally Posted by firearms2k
Just have to quote you quickly here, the 85MM gun can not penetrate a Tiger from that distance(700M). It's closer to 200-500 meters, frontally. Sides don't make too much of a difference there either, since they're still quite well protected. IS-2's were more effective, but the Germans still managed to take them on.
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Depends about the amunition we are talking about and its quality. Only with late 1944 would the Soviets really get their hands on reliable amunition in good quality ~ though neither mow or as really factor in the quality of it, situations like "shatter gab" or the rockwell hardness of shell casings for example which was some issue for a few guns.
And well to say that its not really clear at which point you will penetrate and when not most sources say that its "theoreticaly" possible for the Soviet 85mm to penetrate the front armor of the Tiger 1 from up to 800 meters. But I do question which quality the amunition had. Testing with the best conditions possible doesnt mean it will happen always that way (as how the allies realizied with testing the Panther in isigny where some had very good armor and would even hold out the 17pf and 76mm guns while panthers with average or not so well done armor would get penetrated). And its not like you get in the range of 800 meters and suddenly you will penetrate, sometimes you could be in 801 meters and have success. Other times maybe you need 750m (considering your gun and amunition had the optimum). Depending which angle, maybe even the temperature and preasure or how many shells you have already fired! Balistics and penetrations regardless if with tanks or small arms are a very complex topic from what I can read.