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bongodriver 07-04-2011 10:12 AM

Raaaid.....just accept things the way the matrix makes them, it will all be over one day and none of it will have ever mattered.

dash2099 07-05-2011 02:03 AM

and lay off the peace pipe, son.. lol


3D in movies is an illusion, your eyes will know the difference. the only way to lessen this is to have 2 seperate screens in an eyeglass configuration and block any common viewspace by both eyes (read: too expensive to be puked on for a 10 dollar movie). Once you isolate both eyes and control imagery they both receive, you can viewmaster that like its 1985 and then you can start the voiceover for twilight zone.

raaaid 07-05-2011 09:33 AM

this maybe helpfull:

ive just equiped my pc to be stereoscopic by 0ne euro:

1 euro glasses red cyan

and free anaglyph iz3d drivers :)

and how would you explain that for brief moments in my life ive seen like in a 3d movie?

edit:

seems we all agree a 3d movie perception is different

my point is that normal view its wrong we only have it right when watching a 3d movie, i know ive seen like that :)

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and wouldnt you agree that artificial stereo is an enhanced perception? augmented reality(since you dont normally see like that and its a more quality and usefull perception)

for example the enhacement would allow for much more precise deflection shooting

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also i have proof we are being lied by the powers to keep our perception dumbed, its been done since the invention of the roman circus.

binocular rivalry(you cant see different images with each eye) makes this drawing technique theoretically imposible yet it works :)

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-09_195559.jpg

edit:

i think all thread can be resumed with this thought is worth having:

what is my normal perception closer to to a 3d movie or to a 2d flat movie?

but one have to answer this without prejudice my perception is no doubt closer to a 2d movie a really wonder about the rest

Ailantd 07-06-2011 05:32 PM

Raaaid
 
Ok, Raaid, try this one, and then tell us again that you have 3D vision with only one eye, if you can.
Put a glass on the table and fill it by dropping water from a jug about 15 cm high.

Do this with both eyes open first, then close an eye, turn yourself a few times and try to refill the glass with one eye closed. Its the same? Of course not, now you can go for the mop. Your brain is cheating you, but you have not 3d vision with only one eye. Anyway I hate the 3D effects in movies.

raaaid 07-06-2011 05:38 PM

you hate the 3d effects of movies cause thats not your normal perception

but what if your normal perception is wrong and it should be like in a 3d movie

in what case do you have a clearer perception of depth in a 3d movie or in real life

i explained that i can fill the water cause i have pseudosterosocpy thats my eyes converge in a point and my brain does trigonometry

but the authentic 3d perception is the one that all here dislike in 3d movies, ive had it in real life :)

somethink to make you think:

when i set my brand new mobil phone on stero is still monoauaral, to listen stereo or binaural i have to use a 15 years old radio

the new wolrd order is getting closer

winny 07-06-2011 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 306181)
you hate the 3d effects of movies cause thats not your normal perception

but what if your normal perception is wrong and it should be like in a 3d movie

in what case do you have a clearer perception of depth in a 3d movie or in real life

i explained that i can fill the water cause i have pseudosterosocpy thats my eyes converge in a point and my brain does trigonometry

but the authentic 3d perception is the one that all here dislike in 3d movies, ive had it in real life :)

somethink to make you think:

when i set my brand new mobil phone on stero is still monoauaral, to listen stereo or binaural i have to use a 15 years old radio

the new wolrd order is getting closer

With regards to the 3D effect you've seen. This used to happen to me with certain patterned wallpaper, If I stared at it it would become 3D, it was a repeating pattern and what was hapening was the same as a 'magic eye' picture.

It's your eyes focusing incorrectly that creates this effect.

What were you lookin at at the time?

raaaid 07-06-2011 09:05 PM

oh you just brought an old memory:

when i woke up as i kid first thing i would see would be a geometric pattern

i thought oh god i can do things with the sight, i was seeing in 3d :)

edit:

now that you mention it:

all times i managed to see 3d in real life i was doing exercises of theoretically imposible interhemispheric fusion like drawing with that odd technique or just by meditating while seeing double

currently im practicing seeing double to develop the corpus callosum of the brain and i see a blue hue often on peoples head i wonder if its some kind of aura :)

winny 07-06-2011 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 306260)
oh you just brought an old memory:

when i woke up as i kid first thing i would see would be a geometric pattern

i thought oh god i can do things with the sight, i was seeing in 3d :)

edit:

now that you mention it:

all times i managed to see 3d in real life i was doing exercises of theoretically imposible interhemispheric fusion like drawing with that odd technique or just by meditating while seeing double

currently im practicing seeing double to develop the corpus callosum of the brain and i see a blue hue often on peoples head i wonder if its some kind of aura :)

I too often practice at seeing double, my method differs from yours in so far as I drink Stella Artois, rather than meditating.. It's more reliable.


anyway, you'll like this.
http://www.redferret.net/Images/3d_2DDinosaur.gif

raaaid 07-07-2011 11:17 AM

" If I stared at it it would become 3D, it was a repeating pattern and what was hapening was the same as a 'magic eye' picture.
"

actually i think what happened to you was not an stereogram effect thinking farther ive experienced that:

for example just looking at my elevator vertical strips or at my old room pattern my 3d perception would jump in without crossing the eyes

edit:

and what is suggestion now every time i look at tv they move slowly the camera like that dinosaur, hell maybe tv is the most perfected 3d and i would not notice

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well if theres no conspiracy ponder this:

i just paid 8 euro for a set of headphones and they are the best ive ever had, the previous ones costed me 80 euro

the 80 euro ones reach 10000 hz the 8 euro one reach 20000 hz

with this headpohone you can tell the feling of people singing


if i was normal i would be listening to the fm radio in my mobil phone with 80 euro headphones

like im weird i listen to music with weird looking 8 euro headphones and a crazy old radio that works when she wants

human percpetion is stereo and goes from 20-20000 hz

if i was normal i would be listening to a mono radio and headphones that play a range of 20-10000 hz

like im weird i listen in stereo within the human perception range of 20-20000 hz

makes you think

justme262 07-10-2011 12:06 PM

Yes i noticeably loose depth perception when i close one eye.I just tried it...
I find 3d movies unimpressive because it looks totally normal after a couple of minutes.
I would like a stereoscopic flight sim because it would be closer to the way i see the world.
I have wondered at your eye sight and perception before Raid, when you posted you were playing COD on very low resolution... 600x400 or something like that.


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