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raaaid 07-03-2011 03:53 PM

apologize me if i make you think that and influence the devs into fitting my card is my only intned

myself im thrilled with this thing of 3d perception really makes you wonder

im thinking on making a double sphere if you see it double with your eyes, like a 3d stereogram in 3d and overimpose youll see a cube in the fourth dimension if its done right :)

Gamekeeper 07-03-2011 03:53 PM

I don't know why you do this here and not research the relevant forums and websites. Is your browser broken? Or are you IP banned from Google?

3D in real iife has real depth, objects need variable focus
3D in movies depth is an illusion, the eyes focus on the screen, no variable focus

raaaid 07-03-2011 03:57 PM

then why do you see with one eye equally than with two in real life but you dont in a 3d movie

could we be lied to have our perception and thinking dumb

in fact do you agree with me that making the game stereoscopic would be unrealistic unfair augmented reality since even you call it unnatural?

i mean you wouldnt fail a single deflection shot

maybe that is what makes some people to the top that theydont have pseudostereoscopic like i usually do

but fully stereosocpic like ive achieved like five times in my life for twenty seconds, mindblowing stuff

and how do you know you percieve things like other, have you really talked about it?

anyway thanks from this i get than you like me perceive a 3d movie different than real life :)

edit:


plz also avoid this as a discusiion of my person and keep it as wetaher implementing stereoscopy in the game would be right?

White Owl 07-03-2011 04:20 PM

Yes, I do notice a change in the perception of depth in real life when I close one eye. Raid, do I recall correctly that you once posted here about having some problems with your eyes?

Anyway, the 3D effect fad currently popular in movies is overdone. I prefer choosing for myself what object to focus my eyes on. Having the movie decide for me is unpleasant. I'm hoping the fad will run its course in a little while and disappear, just like a few decades ago.

raaaid 07-03-2011 04:24 PM

humm maybe my perception is wrong

could more people answer this question plz?

the adavantage of stereoscopic games vs movies is that all is in focus in the games

ZaltysZ 07-03-2011 05:21 PM

Stereopsis (what is used by current stereoscopic imaging) and eye convergence requires 2 eyes to work. Deph perception by using eye focus requires only one eye. First 2 methods work mainly at close range (i.e. when you need something to grab, throw something at distant target or catch something thrown at you). Eye focus works at bigger range too, but that range isn't marvelous too and precision diminishes as range increases. Also, even without all that, brain extract lots of depth information from image alone: lightning, shadows, perspective and so on.

We don't loose depth perception with one eye closed, but we loose precision. If you don't have eye problems significant for stereopsis, try catching a ball with one eye closed. Compare it with catching a ball with both eyes open. I think, you will see a difference.

P.S.: by the way, if you use only one eye and move your head to sides, brain will get depth the same way as it gets from stereopsis: it will relate how much you moved the head with how much viewing angle has changed. Works with real world, but of course it does not work with movies. In games you can get this with TrackIR (it really helps while landing a helicopter).

raaaid 07-03-2011 06:32 PM

an stereogram is a 3d perception out of a flat surface

make an stereogram with a volume then your perciven a fourth D

for example i looked double at two pencils overimposing them with my eyes by seeing double

in my 3D world the point of the pencils were aiming away

but in my fourth D perception the pencil was aiming at me

the pencils went away in the 3rd D but come towards in the 4th :)

SG1_Lud 07-03-2011 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raaaid (Post 305180)
then why do you see with one eye equally than with two in real life ....

Try to thread a needle with one eye and post your findings.

raaaid 07-03-2011 07:33 PM

yes i can put a thread in a needle cause i have pseudostereoscopic view

but plz dont you agree that the depth perception of a 3d game or movie is different to that of real life?

thats my whole point for it not being implemented since would be kind of cheating augmented reality

the thing is FIVE TIMES IN MY LIFE I HAD A 20 SECONDS PERCEPTION IDENTICAL TO THAT OF A 3D MOVIE

therefore my confusion

i know my perception of 3d is wrong cause ive had brief times of awesome depth perception(like in a movie)i wonder about the rest

for example could marseill excelsior at deflection shooting be due to having had authentic steroscopic sight contrary to the rest?

raaaid 07-03-2011 08:17 PM

well then theres some open discussion of weather implementing stereoscopy into the game could be consider cheating by being augmented reality which would give an unnatural advantage on deflection shooting


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