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Old 04-20-2012, 10:37 AM
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not exactly

see my current objective is get a perception as in an AUGMENTED reality 3d movie

i have had this perception like 10-20 times in my life but never longer than 20 seconds

ive been observing it:

first let me explain you that to have a 3d AUGMENTED perception is not your eyes which are overimposing the images from each eye BUT THE BRAIN

you can tell this from this / and this \ are not optically overimposable but your brain does building from those a I with augmented depth perception

so the trick to see in augmented stereo is to see slightly double, just enough as that your brain works out overimposing both images

im anxious to go back to the coast to go on with my exercise

i went some brief days and did some exercise and took off my glasses

in a stroll on the beach i was able to control my depth perception

i could see flat or i could see more ore less in augmented 3d and what i did was cross my eyes without seeing double

the dificulty of this is the synchronicity of the near triad(eye lens, iris opening, parallax) by which when you cross your eyes howeve sligghly you get unfocused from far

i think the key for this is device an eye exercise intended to gain asincronous control of the near triad

just like learning to move your ears and not your eyebrows

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the scarry thought is that if i fail im just another wacko and if i succed weell

once right after my 2nd nervous breakdown after having watched in tv late at night arthur c clarcke admitng paedophilia and how chicken meat was treated so from millions of genetic pairs in proteins there were just two i got to a chat and a gay named magico read my mind and told me i was l*****r

well for sanitys sake i belive he was a hacker but thats whats happened



if you rather

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Burkhoff
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:02 AM
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Everything you are saying is true but how do you think this has any relationship to the 4th dimension? all you seem to be doing is exploring some of the less understood behaviours of the human body but there is no obvious link to the 4th dimension, what makes you think there is one?

When I say everything you say is true I would rephrase it to some of it is true, there is quite alot of weird dribble too.

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Old 04-20-2012, 11:25 AM
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because if i can SEE the 3rd dimension in flat if i have a real understanding and REAL PERCEPTION of the third then i can understand and visulaize the 4th whatever that means as i can visulaize 3d in 2d

nahh to be honest i dont give a damm about famine, well i do but is not my motif

i fell once in love with a girl and visualize this as my chance thats why being my intentions good good may give it to me
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:51 AM
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2D is 2D, the illusions you see using superimposed 2D images as 3D are just that....illusions, it's not real 3D, you are just using a simple trick to give an illusion of depth.
Depth is 'real', it is the 3D world we live in, you can stare at all the 3D illusions you want but the 2D images they are created from will never have 'real' depth, you already have all the tools to perceive 'real' depth yet you choose to try to find it in illusions or tricks.

you say famine is not your motive.......why did you mention it at all?

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not sure what you mean here, your near perfect english always degrades just at the point you put in weird statements.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:59 AM
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this is a visulaization of 3d in 2d:



now if i can have an an augmented 3d perception i could visulaize 4d in 3d

that was a poetic coment on the fact that being love what moves me i feel kind of unstopable and thats dangerous for the powers to be since i want to discover a simple way anybody could do to go 4th dimensional, an utter evolution of the status quo in whcih everybody can scan evrybodys minds

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i ment revolution you see thats why i dont correct, see my plan is to become that crazy scientific who disocvers promicine in the 4400 show

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wacko mode on

you see i really know whats this all about humanity is on the next stage of evolution

but it can randomly follow to paths

the transhuman borg who can live millions of years and passes his finals days in a virtual reality

or a natural humanity who lives just 100 naturally in a next natural stage of evolution

the problem is that if you left this for democracy which do you think would turn out?

(wacko mode off)

this is a random wild speculation but i think there are two ways to achieve an enhanced 3d perception, naturally or artificially
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:18 PM
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Yes thats just a 2D picture representing a cube (a 3D object) just like a photograph is a 2D image of a 3D world, there is no real depth, simply our natural sympathy for a 3D enviroment lets us imagine the 3D.

Heres a 2D representation of 4D, why aren't you staring at these pictures instead?

http://www.math.harvard.edu/archive/...ube/4dcube.gif

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that was a poetic coment on the fact that being love what moves me i feel kind of unstopable and thats dangerous for the powers to be since i want to discover a simple way anybody could do to go 4th dimensional, an utter evolution of the status quo in whcih everybody can scan evrybodys minds

Everybody loves something, it doesn't make you unique, it seems to me there are some already brilliant minds working on understanding the 4th dimension with much more sophisticated means rather than going cross eyed trying to understand 3D and watching cartoons and cancelled sci-fi programmes, why would we want a world where everybody can scan each others minds?

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i ment revolution you see thats why i dont correct, see my plan is to become that crazy scientific who disocvers promicine in the 4400 show
Today 12:51 PM
isn't that a good example of why you 'should' correct? saying something you don't mean.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:29 PM
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this is a random wild speculation but i think there are two ways to achieve an enhanced 3d perception, naturally or artificially
No such thing as enhanced 3D perception in the 'real' world, all you are playing with is stereoscopy which is simply making 3D illusions out of 2D images, meanwhile the rest of us in the real world are more than aware of 3D perception with real depth, I can stand at a cliff edge and see its a long way down.....better not jump.
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:42 PM
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here 4d represented in flat if you know how to look so what could you do if you had AUGMENTED 3D perception

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Old 04-20-2012, 12:48 PM
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There is nothing augmentative about being cross eyed, that picture is a 2D image of 2 pencils on a piece of stained paper, the image I linked to is genuinely a representation of current perceptions of 4D.
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Old 04-20-2012, 01:15 PM
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I applaud your efforts Raaaid.

However, since i'm only interested in your success, I advise you to only come back here when you have succeeded and stop wasting valuable time here, whilst you could be using that very same time to achieve your goal.
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