War Thunder.... After some time.

[Crumpp]

Fw 190 D-12, Fw 190 D-13

Why would the developers model these variants in the initial release??

[Ataros]

MK.Mr.X in action while waiting for the Team Fusion CloD patch (starts at 3:57).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...JlwrKt4#t=238s

And some of his friends from RoF and Il-2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=VmzWCMJ-u9s

Another great WT video thread http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=38229

Wolf_13 likes WT FM BTW and said it feels more like RoF one than original IL-2.

[buz13]

Originally Posted by Richie

Well....

After some time going at this game..the demo all I can say is it's a pain in the arss. It's beautiful the flight models aren't terrible but guess what..all I've been able to fly is German biplanes. I think they give you more if you fly for hours on end and score many kills but I can't do that! Or you can buy more aeroplanes. I think I'm so use to IL-2 that anything else that is different seems garbage or totally confusing to my pea sized brain. That's probably the main problem. The only other sim that comes close to IL-2 in my opinion is Rise Of Flight witch is good for all of us. The only thing is I'm not a WWI guy.

Well it's a demo.......but my problem is trying to get the controls set up....I get the joystick done for flying but assigned buttons for guns, bombs, views are not working.....the set up for the controls is very complicated compared to other sims and needs to be simplified before I spend more time just trying to get everything to work....otherwise it may be a fun sim....or game...not sure sim is correct term for this.

[Ataros]

buz13, I have 3 different sticks connected to PC. All buttons work in WT. For axis try these settings by Mr.X http://forum.gaijinent.com/index.php...sion/?p=163095

WT controls are definitely much easier to set up than CloD one as it is a more simple game.

Mr.X and Wolf_13 from RoF use Doras (the plane I miss in CloD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=82iN-js_B8c

[SlipBall]

I tried WT but uninstalled it soon after that

[Ataros]

It is not a sim exactly yet, but became much better after 1.25 major patch in December and then many Il-2 squads came to it (like FB, SLI, RR, 72AG, 2GvShad and others who played IL-2 VEF AFW, ADW, etc). Full Real battles on RU server are very competitive now.

At least one guy from Luthier's CloD team is working there on FMs now. 1.27 major patch is out today.

[smink1701]

Will WT have SP, missons, campaign, etc???

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by smink1701

Will WT have SP, missons, campaign, etc???

It has already. Some are free and some are paid-for. I do not know if they are good though. Probably WIP beta.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Stublerone

Generally you are right with your comment, that they complain graphics so often. I know, that the people of clod are not the same, that are well known in il2. Most guys simply never came to clod, because it do not generate what they all wanted. My known clans all not complain about graphics and also not complain fm. They mainly complain, that cannot fly together in that game in a manner, how you did it in il2. And all we wanted is simple: Polish and advance il2 and its mechanics, regularly fill it with planes and give us a really powerful tool like an advanced SEOW.

Without a tool like that and a powerfull mission builder, clod was dead for most of the il2 guys as they want to play with a story and dynamic theaters. Not only historically correct, but with balanced planesets or with historically correct plabesets, but with resources advantages, etc...

It was dead for all people I know, not because of bad graphics, but with no sense for what a real jagdgeschwader/squadron needs to perform correct flying with immersion.

My immersion is in the things, that are briefed ir in my own mind and never graphically depending.

The engine is powerful, but you cannot fully access them to create a theatre for months. Dynamic campaigns and some sort of SEOW powers are the major backbreaker for my clans and all the people I know. Like ne, they flew perhaps 10-20 hours in clod. And performqnce issues aside, we had no fun to play on an online server, as generally you see perhaps 2-3 squadrobs really playibg it right. The rest is just meeting and shooting. No tactics, no squadron flight techniques, nothing... So: no fun!

Many think the same and it was a killer they went for DF only.

WT looks fun, my sons flying it, but its not for me.

[SlipBall]

Very unfortunate about BOM I was looking forward to ground and air collaborations