Air Force Bases of CloD - Printable cards

[frantic69]

One word : Great.

Thanks for sharing this wonderful cards.

Even if there is still some modification to do, great job so far.

Cheers,

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Avatar

Very nice work indeed! Thanks for your efforts and for sharing your work.

On a side note, I tried loading these onto my iPad and they install and load fine but have found that at page 4 and above it crashes my iBooks and GoodReader apps. Doubt it has anything to do with what you have done, just thought I'd mention it in case there actually is something that can be done on your end. Again, excellent work!

Interesting.

This issue is new to me. I have no iPhone or iPad, but i searched similar issues on google. There are several theme on the forums. Somewhere they said, the vector graphics may kill the apple apps. This is suspicious, because these files contain LOT of vector graphics (and lot of cross link too). Especially from the 4th page. We can try, that i render a pdf withouth the 4th page, and see, what happen. The other issues – which mentioned on the forums – causes full crash.

Edit: Here is the pdf file, please download it, and check the pages. I removed the 4th page, and edited the following ones. Tell me, if the iPad crashes somewhere.
AFBs_of_CLOD_v04_iPadtest.pdf

Edit2. I tested on Android (Motorola Defy), Adobe pdf viewer. It loaded a bit slow, but when load it have no problem.

[Kodoss]

Originally Posted by 5./JG27.Farber

Just wish I could get a lush physical copy. Imagine if these had been in the collectors edition?

I know what you mean. I will wait until VO101_Tom is done with all Airports and then I let it print just for myself as 2 ringbooks (for each side 1book) in A5. A possible candidate: http://www.epubli.de/projects/preise#

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Kodoss

I know what you mean. I will wait until VO101_Tom is done with all Airports and then I let it print just for myself as 2 ringbooks (for each side 1book) in A5. A possible candidate: http://www.epubli.de/projects/preise#

Yes yes, pls be patient, and wait for the final version
I always develop small things (For example I made a list today which AFB used by the RAF and /or Civil. It will be marked on the map)
I promise i will hurry

[Les]

Nice work Tom, thanks for sharing.

I too would be interested in having a printed vesrion of these 'books'. I had a quick look around though to see what it costs to get things like this printed and it's still quite expensive. Professional level printing is cheaper and more accessible than it's ever been, but the costs are still certainly more than what one person alone could be expected to bear, especially if copies were to be sent all over the world.

It makes me wonder if there would be enough people interested in these 'books' to get their publishing funded via 'Kickstarter' ( http://www.kickstarter.com/discover/...home_spotlight ).

I'm not volunteering to get it all organized myself, and I'm not assuming Tom would either, am just putting it out there as an idea.

Looks to me like these cheaper publishing places (like Koss linked to and like I've seen here in Aus.) would be using similar kinds of printing machines, regardless of where they are in the world. Maybe if there were professional-printer-format software (PDF?) copies of the maps made available people could get them printed wherever they like? Has anybody had experience with this sort of limited-run printing before or know if it's even feasible?

[VO101_Tom]

This document is a non historically mix of old and new flight guides, it look alike mostly the Jeppesen books. You don't need a book format. In RL actually used as a sheet, which removable and can be perfectly placed anywhere (Not to mention, easier to update, even a single page)



Best example from 20 sec:
http://youtu.be/UbrmE17M_08

[Artist]

Hi Tom,

I, too, am very interested in printing your excellent work on A5 cardboards (would go nicely with the Pilot's Notes, which are A5, too). Some of the text, however, then becomes rather too small:
- The sub texts on the legend, page 2 (e.g. "AFB code, name of airfield, main runaway and elevation")
- The runway info below the Airport names on the big map, page 3 (e.g. "RWY02/20 23ft")
- The runway info below the Airport names on the small maps (e.g. "RWY02/20 23ft", page 4)
- The figures of approved aerodrome circuit on the small maps (e.g. "02R", page 4)
- The figures of the scales (m and ft) between the small maps (e.g. page 4)

Would it be an awful lot of work to increase the fontsize of those items to a degree that will keep it readable when scaled down to A5?

And, if we're already at it: Could you increase the left margin (and decrease the right margin accordingly) so that the holes, a binding, or a spiral have a little more space?

I hate to ask/propose without to offer, so if I can contribute...

Artist

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Artist

Hi Tom,

I, too, am very interested in printing your excellent work on A5 cardboards (would go nicely with the Pilot's Notes, which are A5, too). Some of the text, however, then becomes rather too small:
- The sub texts on the legend, page 2 (e.g. "AFB code, name of airfield, main runaway and elevation")
- The runway info below the Airport names on the big map, page 3 (e.g. "RWY02/20 23ft")
- The runway info below the Airport names on the small maps (e.g. "RWY02/20 23ft", page 4)
- The figures of approved aerodrome circuit on the small maps (e.g. "02R", page 4)
- The figures of the scales (m and ft) between the small maps (e.g. page 4)

Would it be an awful lot of work to increase the fontsize of those items to a degree that will keep it readable when scaled down to A5?

And, if we're already at it: Could you increase the left margin (and decrease the right margin accordingly) so that the holes, a binding, or a spiral have a little more space?

I hate to ask/propose without to offer, so if I can contribute...

Artist

I understand. What is the printing resolution? How much dpi?
I print now in b&w A5 size 600dpi, I can read all of the texts. I admit, it's small, but the 4-5 pt text still readable.

The main problem is the amount of the align, which necessary if I increase the text sizes. Practically all of the drawings. It seems, it would be less work, if i make an A5 master file (heading and the borders), then i rotate the maps, align the top table (attached from excel), and done.

But i will finish the sheets first.

[Avatar]

Originally Posted by VO101_Tom

Interesting.

This issue is new to me. I have no iPhone or iPad, but i searched similar issues on google. There are several theme on the forums. Somewhere they said, the vector graphics may kill the apple apps. This is suspicious, because these files contain LOT of vector graphics (and lot of cross link too). Especially from the 4th page. We can try, that i render a pdf withouth the 4th page, and see, what happen. The other issues – which mentioned on the forums – causes full crash.

Edit: Here is the pdf file, please download it, and check the pages. I removed the 4th page, and edited the following ones. Tell me, if the iPad crashes somewhere.
AFBs_of_CLOD_v04_iPadtest.pdf

Edit2. I tested on Android (Motorola Defy), Adobe pdf viewer. It loaded a bit slow, but when load it have no problem.

Just noticed this. Thanks for taking the time to look into this!! I just downloaded your test version and it crashed on me on page 6 of 7, or what you have labeled in red "iPad test page 3" where it loads and looks fine but then seems to still be loading then CTD. It's also probably due to Apple not allowing Adobe to have a native PDF reader on their devices and these replacements just don't render the same way... Pure speculation here. Thanks again, it would be awesome to have this great work of yours work on iPads, too.

[VO101_Tom]

Originally Posted by Avatar

Just noticed this. Thanks for taking the time to look into this!! I just downloaded your test version and it crashed on me on page 6 of 7, or what you have labeled in red "iPad test page 3" where it loads and looks fine but then seems to still be loading then CTD. It's also probably due to Apple not allowing Adobe to have a native PDF reader on their devices and these replacements just don't render the same way... Pure speculation here. Thanks again, it would be awesome to have this great work of yours work on iPads, too.

I'm curious, what causes error like this. Perhaps it will be useful in the future

Intersting. The testpage 2 and 3 contain very few vector graphics (almost the same, the 2 contain linked bitmap, the 3 don't), if the iPad can handle the 2, it should handle the 3 Maybe the reader load the next page while you see the actual page? And it crashed when try to load the huge map on the page 4? (that map causes problems on my PC too. But it is attached 2 times, before I render the final pdf from Indesign... That stupid attach/link system already pissed me off, and now this... )

In the worst case, when i finish the sheets, I made bitmap export, and it will be printable like any picture collection.