Hitler Died In Argentina.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

What the F do you think the x-rays were off? They were from his dentist. They were compared with the teeth the Russians had.

Even if this actually matches, you can appreciate that Russian intelligence could produce such evidence, don't you think? They needed him dead, or at least they needed some sort of evidence.

Does he explain how 20+ people would go to their graves lying for Hitler even as his closest supporters stab him in the back? If not, there is no point in listening to him. And I'm not the one going LALALALALALALA here.



Don't know and don't care. If you don't have a plausible explanation why everyone is lying for Hitler, your story is a fraud. That's why Himmler and Goering are such a big problem for you. They were his closest supporters, and they both stabbed him in the back. Do you really think that low level minions would have acted any differently?



See above about no plausible justification for lying.



See about about no plausible justification for lying.

The main problem for this idiocy is that you can't justify how everyone would lie for Hitler when all their incentive is to stab him in the back (see Himmler et al). Not only is it implausible that everyone he left behind would lie for him, it's idiotic.

I really think you fail to comprehend the fanatism around Hitler's persona. Kids and old men were fighting a lost battle to defend Berlin, they could have surrendered, but they didn't. The only one in the high ranks that had this fanatic view of Hitler was probably Goebbels, the rest of the big wigs were just trying to save their asses or pursuing their plans: Himmler was a cunning bastard who was running his personal agenda, Doenitz had already found an agreement with the Allies, Goering was an utter imbecile, but he surely didn't love his Fuhrer more than he loved himself..

For a better understanding of German fanatism for Hitler read "History of the Third Reich" by your compatriot William L. Shirer, he really managed to give an accurate portrayal of Germany as seen with the eyes of a foreigner.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

All we seem to have proved here is that you don't know what a non sequitur is.

that's the answer I would expect by someone who believes that Oswald was indeed the killer of JFK. Otherwise a simple "no, I'm not an idiot, thank you" would have sufficed.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

None of what you are stating is true. Perhaps you can site your sources for your claims.

Just because you are not aware of the facts does not make them un-true

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I really think you fail to comprehend the fanatism around Hitler's persona.

No, I comprehend it completely. At the end of the war his closest supporters stabbed him in the back. What part of that are you not understanding? These people didn't fight fanatically to the end, they tried to save their own backsides. The people in the bunker weren't fighting fanatically, they were hiding. If one of then could have got better treatment for turning on Hitler they would have done so in a heartbeat. The idea that they all conspired to lie to help Hitler abandon them is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard. It's almost as bad as the fake Moon landing morons.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Just because you are not aware of the facts does not make them un-true

he has a point though: can you cite your references?

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

that's the answer I would expect by someone who believes that Oswald was indeed the killer of JFK. Otherwise a simple "no, I'm not an idiot, thank you" would have sufficed.

Google "Non sequitur". Seriously. You look like a fool.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

No, I comprehend it completely. At the end of the war his closest supporters stabbed him in the back. What part of that are you not understanding? These people didn't fight fanatically to the end, they tried to save their own backsides. The people in the bunker weren't fighting fanatically, they were hiding. If one of then could have got better treatment for turning on Hitler they would have done so in a heartbeat. The idea that they all conspired to lie to help Hitler abandon them is one of the most idiotic things I have ever heard. It's almost as bad as the fake Moon landing morons.

I'm afraid we're already running around in circles here. Before giving any absolute statement like yours I would at least take into account other people's points of view and evidences, then form my own opinion. I don't think you have any intention to do it, because you already know the truth.

I think you made your point, you can now move on to the next thread.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

Google "Non sequitur". Seriously. You look like a fool.

..you're doing it again Hayward, you really need to calm down man.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I'm afraid we're already running around in circles here. Before giving any absolute statement like yours I would at least take into account other people's points of view and evidences, then form my own opinion. I don't think you have any intention to do it, because you already know the truth.

I think you made your point, you can now move on to the next thread.

No, I really don't have to consider the views of conspiracy nutcases who can't possibly explain away massive holes in their crazy plots. In fact, I rather enjoy mocking them.

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

..you're doing it again Hayward, you really need to calm down man.

Google is your friend. Use it.