Lucas does Red Tails...

[yellonet]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Your surrender is duly noted.

Take a look at this:

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

No, I saw exactly what you saw, and it was obviously a montage. But, let's assume for a second you are right. Let's assume that the movie has a scene where a P-51 driver shoots the wing off a 109 which then morphs into a 262.

Do you think that:

a. The people who made this movie really don't know the difference between a 262 and a 109.

or

b. it's a plot device to get the movie from mid/late 1944 to the end of the war.

Basically, there are 2 possibilities.

1. You made an absurd assumption.

2. You made an absurd assumption.

you hit this right on the head bro.

[yellonet]

I love how it says "Inspired by TRUE EVENTS", the first word probably being somewhat determining of the content of the movie

[Feathered_IV]

Originally Posted by Hooves

Jesus, you ingrates. Forget about the CGI, and the damn paint schemes. This is a movie celebrating one of the most successful fighter squadrons of WWII, not to mention the pure astronomical adversity that these pilots had to fight through just to prove how brave they were.

I had the honor of listening to one of these Tuskeegee Airmen speak at my squadron and let me tell you. Nothing that has happened in this AIR FORCE Since vietnam has been more heroic and downright humbling than what those pilots did in Europe.


I swear, reading this forum feels like a kick in the gut sometimes. You fools have NO idea what the GAME is all about. Or what kind of real men it took to go up and accomplish what so many before us have. You, nor I have ever seen war like these men did. And hell, Ive been shot at in Iraq.


Un-believable. Absolutly ZERO respect.

I think that is the point everybody here is trying to make. This film by the "star wars guy" will not pay a worthy tribute, it will more likey be as fitting to the Tuskegee Airmen as the Pearl Harbour movie was to those who died in the USS Arizona. What people are railing against are the shallow mock-tributes of the Hollywood film industry, not the courage and sacrifice of the original airmen.

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

Gents, I have to be honest and say I was quite looking forward to seeing this film, but sadly, after watching the trailer I felt complete dismay with one line that is to be used in the story and it appears in the trailer too.

At 32-seconds in one of the 15th Airforce Generals' is heard to say "I want Pilots who will look after the Bombers and not just think about themselves!" (or words very similar).

To be honest I my jaw fell and I was quite angry to hear that.

In the time I have been researching the history of the 325th I have heard many stories of Pilots putting their lives at risk to look after their 'Big Friends' and this insinuates that every Pilot was only interested in dogfighting rather than protecting their charges. I am sure 31stFG pilots will be just as upset to hear this huge generalisation that only the 332nd would and could do this.

To be honest I feel like boycotting this film fo such a slight against all the pilots (other than the 332nd) who took part in the MTO, as you can imagine I am quite angry about this.

Sadly, as always happens, Hollywood decides History is an inconvenience to a good story, wheras the actual story of the 332nd needs no assistance, it was incredible!

MP

While it would be wrong to discredit another Unit in any shape or form, try to keep two things in mind here. As we have proven in other posts on different subjects. Some of these Clips have been taken out of context. Also consider that, in some missions. This DID happen.

Its a crappy plot device to strip in down to assumptions of inability, or "want" to properly complete a mission. But again this isn't a movie about those other squadrons. Its about the 332nd.

[JG52Uther]

Its a Hollywood war movie from George Lucas.
I don't expect much in the way of accuracy, but will probably end up watching it at some point, just for the 'LOL!' moments, the 'WTF!' moments, and the 'FFS!' moments...

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

I think that is the point everybody here is trying to make. This film by the "star wars guy" will not pay a worthy tribute, it will more likey be as fitting to the Tuskegee Airmen as the Pearl Harbour movie was to those who died in the USS Arizona. What people are railing against are the shallow mock-tributes of the Hollywood film industry, not the courage and sacrifice of the original airmen.

While it would actually make me feel better if this were true. Im pretty sure those complaining about FM were just touting their E Pean "I know so much about FM's that I Can say those FM's are terrible" without even giving one iota of thought to what the movie is trying to do.

[the Dutchman]

Ah,so here's where all you whiners are hiding!
I was already wondering............

[yellonet]

Originally Posted by Hooves

While it would actually make me feel better if this were true. Im pretty sure those complaining about FM were just touting their E Pean "I know so much about FM's that I Can say those FM's are terrible" without even giving one iota of thought to what the movie is trying to do.

I'm pretty sure that almost everyone here is mature and intelligent enough to see that what Lucas is trying to do is to earn money by creating a movie that gives the impression of being a tribute to the airmen, but as I see it, the real reason for making the movie shines through as far more have been spent on creating "good" action than really creating a historical and authentic atmosphere that would really make people see what they went through. IMO this just looks like a run of the mill Hollywood action flick.
And personally I feel it's more of a mockery than a tribute.

[Lololopoulos]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Exactly my thoughts

i took another close look, the p-51 actually hit an 109, and then the scene was quickly cut to an me262 being shot off a wing.

shooting down bomber is made too easy in this film. most likely they have "realistic gunnery" turned off.

i'm really looking forward to this movie, but i'll probably ended up being disappointed and cursing the FM all the way through.

oh and did u guys see the livery of those 109s? geez.... they really should have done some more research.