Head Tracking with Cliffs of Dover - Page 7

robtek · #61 02-11-2011, 07:35 AM

I am pretty shure that the majority of gamers wont build something like the FT assembly!
Only geeks like us would do something like that.
Having said that i have to remark that my experience with FT and TIR is absolutely in favor of TIR as i never did get FT working reliably.
I also favor the FT support for CloD, if just to pacify the (pretty loud) minority of FT users.

Vasilj_Mitu · #62 02-11-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by robtek

I also favor the FT support for CloD, if just to pacify the (pretty loud) minority of FT users.

errm... from where do you draw your conclusion that we are minority?

Wolf_Rider · #63 02-11-2011, 07:47 AM

By the colour of the jackboots?

David198502 · #64 02-11-2011, 07:50 AM

hey guys!!!i have read this thread now!
i for myself own track ir and im really enjoying it.but i convinced a friend of mine now,who normally dont play flight simulators, to buy COD, and he even bought il2 1946 two days ago, to get used to handle a simulated aircraft.yesterday i set up a coop mission to learn him the ropes. everything is fine and he really likes il2.but he has major problems to work with the hat switch to look around.so my question is where i can find a complete guide(possibly a dummies guide which explains every step) to use freetrack and mod the webcam??

MadBlaster · #65 02-11-2011, 07:51 AM

JMHO. In the end I think it is about game sales. If 1C/Ubi wants to maximize revenue, it will make sure CoD allows for the use of Freetrak devices or risk losing market share. I would not expect 1C to answer officially in this thread because that would probably not make NaturalPoint happy and they do business with them. TrakIR is the industry standard and logically, CoD has to support it. In the meantime, they make NaturalPoint happy during the release run up by providing advertising in their promotional videos for CoD. But that makes no difference to me since I am a Freetrak user and spendthrift, I will simply wait to buy CoD when I have assurance from the community that the game supports Freetrak. In the meantime, I'm happy to keep playing good ol' IL-2. But given the history that there was this encrypted interface with Black Shark, then there was a "fix" and also that Eagle Dynamics was going to do their own thing, then didn't at NP request? It all seems very scripted to me. Also, I see nothing in the system requirements for CoD that says, if you use TrackIR it has to be a newer model so you can get the new version of the software that works with the encrypted interface. I guess the wait could be prolonged in the DRM? Then I look at my mouse. It is a Logitech mouse not a microsoft mouse and I am using windows software/drivers. Ok, I guess I'm really not worried about it now. Going to bed.

Wolf_Rider · #66 02-11-2011, 08:01 AM

Its quite possible NP could not, in any way force a developer to lock other products out, if that product utilised gnu items and/ or their own items/ interfacing... NP can, and rightly so, force a developer to lock out anything which takes advantage of NP software, in any form, if they are under product licensing.
Publisher also has a choice of getting involved in the interests of protecting, or not, other softwares copyrights through DRM.

Vasilj_Mitu · #67 02-11-2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by David198502

so my question is where i can find a complete guide(possibly a dummies guide which explains every step) to use freetrack and mod the webcam??

http://www.free-track.net/english/

Stipe · #68 02-11-2011, 08:33 AM

@David198502
Logitech C120 is a great webcam for this build. If you get one be aware when you remove the ir filter. Newer model has one on the "plate" not in the lense assembly. Make sure you get wide angle ir leds. You can get regular ones and sand them down if you cant find the wide angle ones.

Untamo · #69 02-11-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

Its quite possible NP could not, in any way force a developer to lock other products out, if that product utilised gnu items and/ or their own items/ interfacing... NP can, and rightly so, force a developer to lock out anything which takes advantage of NP software, in any form, if they are under product licensing.
Publisher also has a choice of getting involved in the interests of protecting, or not, other softwares copyrights through DRM.

You are absolutely correct, no one should take advantage of other peoples work.

But it is also true that FT has always had their own interface, which is totally their own.. or more correctly, no ones own, GPL licensed in other words. It just wasn't used by any games.

This of course doesn't mean that the usage of NP's interface was the right thing to do (in the past when no game utilized FT's interface).

Encryption of NP's interface now makes it impossible for the FT to utilize it, so if a new game can be played with FT, it is all their own merit, not NP's.

-Untamo

Wolf_Rider · #70 02-11-2011, 10:34 AM

As long as anyone elses' product isn't being used against their wishes, such as NP's, then I personally don't have a problem with it... but if there are utilities that allow information to be pulled out of someone elses' work, such as NP and having their encryption busted... then yes, there is a problem. One utility made by FT allows for the NP encryption to be stripped away, allowing FT software to access NP information, therein lay the problem

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