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Old 07-30-2009, 11:56 AM
Anton Yudintsev Anton Yudintsev is offline
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OK I didn't expect my thread to make such a big reaction.

Honestly I know three people IRL and numerous people online not getting this game because of the awkward controllers.

If the developers expect this game to sell and want to get a fanbase they can at least can promise us a patch to fix these issues
instead of turning their back to us.
Once again, I can't _promise_ anthing. Three people are three buyers, of course, but only three.
But, this feedback _will_ be taken in account. It is not that we are ignoring it.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:31 PM
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Unfortunately Anton from the ten or so people who I got to download the demo, 8 of them say the same thing. Your going to lose sales because of this, you can't expect people to be happy about flying in 'south-paw' mode, especially in a game where fine control is key to success.

Most of my friends that tried the demo, played for 2 minutes and gave up because of the sticks being reverse to they we are used to. They are all lost sales.

You keep going on about money this, sales that but this decision is going to cost you lots in lost sales, why can't you understand that.

Unless I get a flightstick or it's patched I can't see me buying it either, and I don't see why I 'have' to buy a flight stick as it makes the game cost £100. It's a shame you made a good game then ruined it with lousy controls that can't be reconfigured.

Shame I've wanted this game since it was announced, but looks like it is not for me.
The game isn't really meant to be played with a pad anyway. The real market for this title are the guys with disposable income to spend $40 on a Flight Stick. This game is going to do very, very well, regardless.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:37 PM
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There are few ways to do it.
First, if no target is selected already - press 'A', and the nearest to your crosshair fighter will be selected (well, we have some heurestics here, depending on angle and distance). Automatically, the game build list of all enemies nearby, so you can cycle with 'A' through all of them.

What you are probably asking about is how to select another fighter after this (list is already made, and you can just cycle).

First, just shoot somewhere to enemy. He'll become auto-targeted automatically.
Second, destroying selected target force the game to re-build this list.
Third, after a while (15 seconds, afair) pressing 'A' will work like there is no target (selecting closest one).
And the last, but not the least. Press'n'hold 'A' will select one of your Main Objective target (if there are any nearby). It is very helpful.

We experimented a lot with. Tens of different solutions. And stayed on this.

Now, if you think over it, it is reasonable.
Always selecting closest target by 'A' won't allow you to select targets which are probably more interesting - let's say you are on tail of one bomber, but closest one is fighter covering it. Or, more illustrative, ground targets/ships won't be selected at all - most of the time, you are not diving.
And we need to have some way to select Main Targets, because, um, they are Main.

Hope, that answers your question.
Thanks, man. Makes sense.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:41 PM
H Lecter H Lecter is offline
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The game isn't really meant to be played with a pad anyway. The real market for this title are the guys with disposable income to spend $40 on a Flight Stick. This game is going to do very, very well, regardless.
I would probably spend much more for a decent flight stick if there were any available.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:45 PM
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Criticism is good and constructive but there has been a lot of anger displayed in this thread, that was my only point. E.g. "being told off by some stupid little spod" is anger and uneccessary.
Fair enough. It just winds me up when people accuse others of just moaning for the sake of it. I've been excited about this game since I first heard it might be a possibility and the finished product looks like it will deliver and then some.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:50 PM
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Fair enough. It just winds me up when people accuse others of just moaning for the sake of it. I've been excited about this game since I first heard it might be a possibility and the finished product looks like it will deliver and then some.
Yeah thats fair enough too, I've been excited about it as well. I actually thought you made a good point about lack of flight sticks on the 360, its a definate problem. And theres definately improvements that could be made as we've all said about in the last few threads.

My original post was actually aimed at the guys that were yelling at Anton and saying they won't buy the game (as if people should care about that person buying the game or not!). I found that a bit rude, thats all.
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