Blacksix can you explane!

[csThor]

The self-righteousness of some posters here makes me want to wash my hands every time I visit this place here. Sad, extremely sad ...

[il_corleone]

Originally Posted by catito14

Come on guys, stop with the bulls#$t of "They will fix it because is in the box" ..... they will fix it because they are thinking in the MMO future project, that´s all, they are thinking in $ , forget about the "meet their obligations" (of the box).
CLOD AND US, ARE GUINEA PIGS FOR THEIR MMO PROJECT, face it.

Sadly, i think its true...

+1

[Strike]

Wow guys, just wow.

Aer9o, I must say that the way I perceive some of your posts you come across as a self-appointed spokesperson for the general customers. I hope you realize that it's just as rude as taking home a teamsport trophy and adding it to your personal collection. Or ordering dinner in a restaurant on behalf of all of your friends, choosing your favourite dishes, and demanding they pay for it.

It just doesn't work very well. That's my honest feedback to you.

Besides that, ANYTHING other than what Blacksix or Luthier says is pure speculation. For all we know they could be releasing a Naval Warfare sim featuring aliens and gorillas.

I don't know much about laws regarding video-games etc, but I think as long as the game states DX9 is a minimum requirement, any customer that cannot get the game to work because they don't have a >DX9 version is entitled a full refund. Now if that actually happened it would be groundbreaking for this forum, because it would be the very most backed up and valid complaint ever.

I can't imagine the shockwave of destruction for 1C if they pulled a stunt like that.

Also like others have stated, the DX9 effects have to be re-written for DX10 and that might be a good thing. Perhaps we can finally get rid of the dust/smoke FPS drop this game is plagued with. Either way I don't mind waiting for it, mainly because I do other things and play other games. In my signature are a few, but I can really recommend trying falcon BMS. You basically learn to fly and fight with the F-16. You'll surely be occupied until the next patch is released, and you can even check in here inbetween to catch up on progress.

I also enjoy some ArmA 2, RoF, Natural Selection 2, Skyrim, Empire Total War and occasional BF3. Most of those games are at bargain price and will keep you happy while waiting for the patch Since CoD is the best WW2 Flight sim at the moment we have no choice but wait and show our support, or else this genre will die eventually. If 1C fails, maybe other developers will look at them and think that flight sims are only dry wells, slowly being forgotten by the general gaming society.

Just my thoughts..

[Force10]

Originally Posted by csThor

The self-righteousness of some posters here makes me want to wash my hands every time I visit this place here. Sad, extremely sad ...

I don't see you disputing what was said though. I see you also dirtied your hands enough to post in this thread so.....

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by catito14

Of course, but you should forget about the "bugtracker", forget about the FM, forget about new missions/campaings, etc .... their priority will not be the bugs reported by us to fix CloD .... their priority will be fix the bugs that we will report, if that bugs are critical for the development of their MMO.

Forget about the FM? so why apparently are we getting revised FM's based on community input? the 100 octane issue was in the bugtracker and it seems the issue is being dealt with, the rest is just your oppinion and based on nothing more than speculation.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Pudfark

There is no/know excuse for waiting 8+ months for a "steam" downloadable
patch for this game. None.

There's no excuse for the relentless complaining from you, either. If you're not happy with the game, go away. And yet, here you are...

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

'$' is the reason most of us get up in the morning

Not sure I agree with this. Some of the people on this board appear to get up in the morning so they can come in here and complain.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by csThor

First: An online forum with a limited participation in some thread a random user opened is by no means any more important than the notorious bag of rice falling over somewhere in China.

Second: Your posting style comes across as aggressive, smacks of way too much (falsely) self-appointed importance and makes false claims of speaking for "the community" to boot. Little wonder that people either ignore you, laugh about you or feel irritated. If you stopped posting as if you had any say (which you don't, you don't speak for anyone but yourself) and dropped the drama in your texts you might actually be taken seriously.

Three: You come across like a petulant child who didn't get the sweets he wanted and is now throwing a tantrum to get what he wants. Well, here's news for you: If you want to be seen as an adult, then post like an adult.

Originally Posted by Aer9o

You certainly have plenty of time to write all this long essays of stupid criticism! Just look at the facts and figures, what we have paid for, what has been prommised and what has been delivered so far! I am stunned by the bullshit in your " wise and adult like post"!

Guys, please relax the tone a bit. It's perfectly ok to disagree, but there's no reason to start insulting each other.

Originally Posted by swiss

The only questions is:
Will DX9 GPUs ever deliver enough performance for whatever is to come?

Or is it just because of OS compatibility?

Actually that is a valid question and we would need a separate topic to address it. Think like "what can be done to ensure DX9 GPUs give adequate performance" sort of stuff. It might mean a degradation of visual quality for example, or more comprehensive options so that each user can choose what kind of detail to lower.

Let's be honest here, we don't expect the sim to run maxed out on DX9 hardware. I think most people are trying to say that since there are customers who bought it based on the published system requirements, the sim should simply be working for them.

Working doesn't mean "120 FPS all maxed out". It means a steady 25-30 FPS at a reasonable level of visual detail that is the best compromise between getting enough performance and being able to perceive the virtual world around you without having a disadvantage against other players.

That's all really. Well, at least in my humble opinion

Originally Posted by Strike

Besides that, ANYTHING other than what Blacksix or Luthier says is pure speculation. For all we know they could be releasing a Naval Warfare sim featuring aliens and gorillas.

Ok, i lol'ed

On a serious note, i also don't get why pushing an MMO out the door is so bad?
Suppose it's something like WoP, then it will not only attract more people to the genre, it will also make it possible to get cash from a wider market, through a game that is not as difficult to model: just take CoD, keep the visuals, take out the difficult stuff, release for the sim-light market.

Most of the stuff they need is already available, what they'd have to code is the MMO campaign logic. Which 1) will probably be done by different people anyway than the ones who are doing the current performance fixes and 2) it will also benefit us because we could use the same dynamic multiplayer features on our full difficulty version of the sim.

Then those funds could be used to hire new people, so that our hardcore part of the sim gets finished faster. If they can steadily milk an MMO cash cow with a sim-light version of CoD that every kid will play on their lower end PCs and maybe even Xbox, you won't have to pay more to accelerate development of the main sim platform, neither will you have to buy flyable separately. Is that bad? Because a lot of people act like it is.


If the dev team was thinking like some people here do, Luthier would walk into the office and announce:
"We have an unfinished product and lower funds than the rest of the industry, making our progress slow. But we don't want new customers to fund and accelerate this progress, because we are hardcore like our hardcore fans. We'd rather be limited this way and take longer to finish it."


Seriously, for all the hurry behind getting the sim fixed, some of the suggestions we see getting flaunted are working towards completely opposite results. The situation is what it is. If you get stubborn about it just to be stubborn you are just advocating a delay of the improvements we all want.

There's not enough manpower and funds to keep this sim afloat simply by catering to us few dozen maniacs here and that's not something that will change just by snapping our fingers. If anyone has a better way, by all means suggest one. But for the most part, all i hear is "do it this way and do it fast, even if the way i suggest ends up being slower". It doesn't make any sense at all and i'm not angry at anyone suggesting it, i'm just genuinely and utterly confused

[BH_woodstock]

just my thoughts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7BuQFUhsRM

[catito14]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Forget about the FM? so why apparently are we getting revised FM's based on community input? the 100 octane issue was in the bugtracker and it seems the issue is being dealt with, the rest is just your oppinion and based on nothing more than speculation.

Yup, just as yours ... oh no, true, you still believe in a company that has failed in its promises from the release of the simulator ... i think you live in a fairy tale, mate ...