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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-21-2012, 06:04 PM
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Bottom line is WOP didn't keep the online flight sim communities interest, many of us bought it, but soon when back to flying IL-2 1946. The maps were simply to small for anything but airquake and no mission builder. I don't know how many of the offline community stuck with WOP.

War Thunder looks a little better than WOP, if they've made maps large enough for both side to land and a mission builder then maybe the IL-2 online community will be more interested. COD's next patch should make the sim more playable for most people, then they will have to get the AI, Commands, FM, and DM sorted to fix the game play issues. With the complexity of the COD FMB and the addition of the SDK, I don't see War Thunder keeping much of the IL-2 crowd interested for long, unless War Thunder has made major improvements to their WOP game engine.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:06 PM
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Strange logic Manu. I'd go for the nerdy looking girl who just needs to unravel her hair, add a little makeup and take off the glasses over the rough old slapper any day mate.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:08 PM
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no. no matter how good it looks, if it runs at 5 fps... its not good.
Well if it runs at 5 fps then I would say its more to do with having a very bad pc than the game
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:13 PM
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That's only true if mindless and pointless gangbanging with fighters is all you care about. Once realistic missions are part of the equation postage stamp maps become a true problem.
Look you are aiming at the wrong guy, I'm not a furball guy at all... in the past I did 2.5 hours recon mission in IL2 during an online campaing in the PTO to search a carrier, 2 hours CAP over objectives only to witness that the enemy sneaked around us with an improbable path at an improbable altitude.

Now please tell me how do you think to defend the entire 1:1 seabord of England with 20 planes... above all without a radar system (Maraz did a great mod for the IL2 SEOW campaigns).

Bigger maps allow you to bomb London with Brest-Plymouth-Bristol London as ordered wayponts because all the fighters are over the Dover.. is that realistic? Have you fun in that?

Look, some months ago we were to fly on Falcon BMS for a combat mission and a new guy was talking about he had 200 hours on the F-16; at last we realized that he didn't know a $hit since he was used to fly relocation missions and have real pleasure in doing that... not a surprise knowing he's a FS guy.

It's the same problem of the ARMA series... you can enter in enemy territory anywhere expect in front of the objective, and then you take the defenders for behind, because the maps are big.

If you want a combat simulator you need to put the guys in the same limited airspace... otherwise yours will be a solo indisturbed mission.
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A whole generation of pilots learned to treasure the Spitfire for its delightful response to aerobatic manoeuvres and its handiness as a dogfighter. Iit is odd that they had continued to esteem these qualities over those of other fighters in spite of the fact that they were of only secondary importance tactically.Thus it is doubly ironic that the Spitfire’s reputation would habitually be established by reference to archaic, non-tactical criteria.

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Old 02-21-2012, 06:25 PM
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Well if it runs at 5 fps then I would say its more to do with having a very bad pc than the game
no matter how bad my pc is, its in the official recommended settings.
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no matter how bad my pc is, its in the official recommended settings.


You can never go by that, all developers inflate that
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:38 PM
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no matter how bad my pc is, its in the official recommended settings.
I've posted this already, it takes a really, really blue eyed person, to trust any system recommendation for a ground breaking sim.

The only shure way is: get the best there is on the market, and then plan to upgrade!
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:51 PM
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Strange logic Manu. I'd go for the nerdy looking girl who just needs to unravel her hair, add a little makeup and take off the glasses over the rough old slapper any day mate.
You are too much materialist Osprey... you're looking only at her aspect.

I can prefer the 35 old lady who know how to do her job instead of the awkward sexy teen (over 18 of course).

And who do you choose between these two?


















Have you made your choice?

Good, the first one is a transsex... I don't know your taste but I don't like this kind of surprise.
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Old 02-21-2012, 06:56 PM
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thank god i choose the second.

on other note, ubisoft is getting sued regarding the minimum specs fraud....
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:13 PM
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You are too much materialist Osprey... you're looking only at her aspect.

I can prefer the 35 old lady who know how to do her job instead of the awkward sexy teen (over 18 of course).

And who do you choose between these two?



















Have you made your choice?

Good, the first one is a transsex... I don't know your taste but I don't like this kind of surprise.
Nice one, though you got the age difference absolutely wrong!

Beside the trans-fraud it would rather look like 18 to 80 !

Lets see what pictures you can present then.
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