New planes requests (from other threads/please pin it)

[dimlee]

"There are no distinctive "Singapore" or "Malaysian" objects to make the map more interesting."

True. By the way, there are not many distinctive local objects on most of East Front maps as well. Leningrad and Slovakia are the only exceptions, probably. And some existing "distinctive" objects are plain wrong and/or were installed with time machine technology, for example, breakwaters in Sevastopol Bay (constructed in 1970s in real life).
And wrong toponymy...wrong hills...rivers...missing bays and lakes...etc. I better stop now !

[dimlee]

Originally Posted by Marabekm

I stared with those maps because of exactly that reason, only one or two major battles in a small time frame. Also this is only aircraft list, not other objects. But yes there are some ships/artillery types/vehicles/tanks that are missing as well.

Lets go to Stalingrad:
Major Battle: Battle of Stalingrad

VVS from what I can find (any help here would be appreciated)
Planes we have: Yak-1, Yak-7B, Lagg-3, I-16, I-153, La-5, P-40, Hurricane, Mig-3(This one there seems to be a lot of disagreement on), Il-2, Pe-2, SB, Su-2, R-5, U-2
missing: It is my understanding that the DB-3 (A-20) used by VVS had a different turret?

Luftwaffe planes we have: Ju-87B/D3, Hs-123(AI only), BF-109E/F/G, Ju-88A-4, He-111H6, Hs-129(AI Only), FW-189(AI Only)
planes missing: Ju-87R, BF-110(early types)

Regia Aeronautica: Planes available: MC 200, MC 202
missing: Ca311, Ca312, Ca164, Br-20
Romanian Royal Aeronautics Planes we have: BF-109E7, IAR 80, IAR 81a Blenheim Mk I
Planes missing: JRS-79, BF-109E3, He-111H3, Do17, Potez 633A/B, IAR-37


I need to do some more research on the subject. If I missed anything let me know. Hopefully will be getting some books on this soon.

Stalingrad / other missing:
Ar-2, Pe-2 (or Pe-3) with Gneiss radar.

Ju-86, FW-200, FW-58, He-177, Ju-90, Ju-290 (OK, there was only one probably), Go-145, He-46, Do-215, Hs-126.

Probably: Cant 1007, Ca 133

IAR 38/39, RWD-13.

There were Hungarians as well, but info is scarce.

Seaplanes are mentioned there:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...?f=49&t=114464
I wonder where they were based.

[sniperton]

Originally Posted by dimlee

There were Hungarians as well, but info is scarce.

So far as I know, the Hungarian Air Force has not played any considerable role in, and in the close vicinity of, the battle of Stalingrad. The Hungarian 2nd Army was holding the Northwest flank and had only Re-2000 fighters, He-46 recces, and Ca-135bis medium bombers in numbers (>10). And their majority was withdrawn due to attrition and retraining before the Stalingrad battle started.

[iMattheush]

Why don't put HVARs on P-51 and P-47? Will be an amazing (and pretty simple) update in 4.13.1...

[Marabekm]

Originally Posted by iMattheush

Why don't put HVARs on P-51 and P-47? Will be an amazing (and pretty simple) update in 4.13.1...

P-47s have rockets available as a load out option. I Thought the P-51 (at least the C version) did as well but I am not 100% sure.

[Marabekm]

Originally Posted by dimlee

Seaplanes are mentioned there:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...?f=49&t=114464
I wonder where they were based.

http://www.ww2.dk/air/seefl/sagr125.htm

Well it looks like Constanza and Varna/Sevastapol. Not sure how they came into play in Stalingrad.

As far as the Regia Aeronautica, I looked here:
http://www.cgsc.edu/CARL/nafziger/940IXAL.pdf

61st Gruppo appears to have operated Ca-311.
21st Gruppo had MC200/MC202
71st Gruppo with BR-20M, Ca-311, Ca-312, Ca-164.

Can't find any mention of a Cant Z in Russia.

[iMattheush]

Originally Posted by Marabekm

P-47s have rockets available as a load out option. I Thought the P-51 (at least the C version) did as well but I am not 100% sure.

P-47? Yup, but not HVARs, just kinda bangalore rockets, named M8

[dimlee]

Originally Posted by Marabekm

http://www.ww2.dk/air/seefl/sagr125.htm

Well it looks like Constanza and Varna/Sevastapol. Not sure how they came into play in Stalingrad.

As far as the Regia Aeronautica, I looked here:
http://www.cgsc.edu/CARL/nafziger/940IXAL.pdf

61st Gruppo appears to have operated Ca-311.
21st Gruppo had MC200/MC202
71st Gruppo with BR-20M, Ca-311, Ca-312, Ca-164.

Can't find any mention of a Cant Z in Russia.

I'm puzzled with those seaplanes as well. Need to check in Bergstrom's book.

Cant Z was mentioned in some "second hand" sources without reference to documents. (I've done quick search, but didn't bookmark or copy). So might be a mistake and can be ignored.

[stugumby]

Rockets for p47 are triple launcher m8 not zero length hvar. Rockets need updating for fm 2, p47,p51, 60lb rockets and mixed bomb loads needed for beaufighter and mosquito as well. Since the triple launcher exists it needs to be added to a20g and p40m as well. Beaufighter with straight tail is also needed.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

For the pacific, there is a plane that is direly missing! The D3A2!

Agreed, it saw a fair bit of use during the middle years of the Pacific War and probably doesn't need anything other than an FM change.

Likewise, the SBD-6 would be an easy "upgrade" to an existing plane that requires just an FM change.

B5N1 would be sort of useful for Sino-Japanese War scenarios, but that would require actual changes to aircraft exterior model.