4.12 development update discussion and feedback

[Fafnir_6]

Hey guys,

Where is the 4.12 dev update (it's not in the first post)? I would very much like to see it. Is the HS-123 getting a cockpit?

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

Edit: Sorry I just found it...It wasn't showing up when I posted :/

[Wiesel]

Thanks Daidalos, great!

[Kittle]

Wow! Shared kills is something that needed doing for a very long time now. Not only is it historical, but it eliminates the 'kill stealing AI' and that's awesome!!! Also prevents me from stealing kills from the AI hehe

[Florinm352]

Any word on a facelift on the 109's? After all you did the 110 so it shouldn't be much of a strain...

[ECV56_Guevara]

I have a question about the share kill..
is there a hit´s percentage to start counting a share? I mean, I hit an enemy plane with two bullets and my wingman damage him hard. The enemy goes down. Still would be a shared kill? In other way, my wingman hit an enemy, and when it is going down I shoot and hit him. If there´s no minimal Percentage of hits to start counting, this feature can eliminate the kill stealers, but the "half kill stealers" could survive.
Thanks. Great job as usual DT!

[slm]

Originally Posted by Kittle

Wow! Shared kills is something that needed doing for a very long time now. Not only is it historical, but it eliminates the 'kill stealing AI' and that's awesome!!! Also prevents me from stealing kills from the AI hehe

Yes, shoulder shooting should happen less now when all hits count. I think this is a great improvement.

[Pursuivant]

The ability to share kills is great, but remember that it wasn't used by all air forces; notably the Luftwaffe, the Soviet Union and Japan. There should be some method of turning it off, just turning it off for one side, or linking it to nationality.

Also, I know it's just eye candy, but I'd love to see nation-specific kill symbols. - little Iron Crosses, Italian Fasces or Japanese flags if you're flying for the U.S. or Commonwealth, crysanthemums or cherry blossoms if you're flying for the Japanese, etc.

[Pips]

The Soviets did count shared claims, as illustrated below:
Pokryshkin - 53 individual / 6 shared
Rechkalov - 56/5
Gulayev - 57/3
Stepanenko - 33/8
Alelyukhin - 40/17
Borisov - 17/10
Korobov - 3/10

Interestingly Ivan Kozhedub didn't claim any shares in his amongst his 62 victories. A full breakdown of Soviet claims can be found here:
http://users.accesscomm.ca/magnusfamily/ww2urs.htm

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Florinm352

Any word on a facelift on the 109's? After all you did the 110 so it shouldn't be much of a strain...

Keep in mind there are 3 types of Bf110 in the game and 15 Bf109 variants. The effort involved will be substantially more if they go that route.

[[URU]BlackFox]

About the shared kills...

I don't know if it's posible, but to avoid the "half-kill stealers", there should be some control over "when" the hits count.

Let me explain... After a wing comes off, any aditional hits shouldn't count, since that is a confirmed kill. Hits before this damage are ok, hits after that just a waste of ammo, and a chance for half-kill steal.

I've seen people shooting at planes falling without the tail section just to KS, that's why I make the suggestion.

Thx as usual and forgive my english if what I wrote is hard to understand.