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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 01-23-2012, 04:28 PM
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We are actively working on a patch, there is some progress in optimizing graphics. However, the resulting performance data and information about changes in the near patch we will publish when we are 100% sure of the result, please wait.
Also, this Friday we'll post some screenshots of the new aircraft from the sequel.
Thank you for your understanding and expectation!
Thanks BlackSix...encouraging

Can you say the work will include a solution for the Freezes/Crashes...Launcher Error? Without this..... all else is for naught
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:54 AM
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is it this ;

"Performance. We are in final stages of testing a thorough overhaul of the game’s graphic engine. It won’t look any different but it will be much more streamlined. It’s too early to say what the FPS increase will be in the final version, but it shouldn’t be less than 50%. "

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"there is some progress in optimizing graphics"

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Old 01-24-2012, 09:33 AM
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is it this ;

"Performance. We are in final stages of testing a thorough overhaul of the game’s graphic engine. It won’t look any different but it will be much more streamlined. It’s too early to say what the FPS increase will be in the final version, but it shouldn’t be less than 50%. "

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"there is some progress in optimizing graphics"

Both. If you search for BlackSix's and luthier's posts you will see that they faced huge difficulties with this new engine in December and now are working hard to overcome them. This it is good that any progress is made as there could be none at all. "it shouldn’t be" doesn't mean "it will not be"

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Old 01-24-2012, 09:39 AM
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I think the point Aero was making is that at first the statement was they were in 'final' stages of testing, and subsequently the next update says 'some' progress.

but my reading of it is that they have finalised the overhaul and are making some progress in the optimization of the new engine.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:13 AM
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I think the point Aero was making is that at first the statement was they were in 'final' stages of testing, and subsequently the next update says 'some' progress.
Yes. What I mean is testing is done to find issues. This can happen on final stage too. Thus they found a huge issue that prevents them from making big progress as they informed the community in December already. Some just missed these announcements and base their expectations on wrong (outdated) information.

And regarding too high expectations in general I wrote some time ago http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=965

To me thinking of 50% increase always seemed to be too optimistic. Com'on don't you know Parkinson's laws The remaining 20% of work always takes 80% of time. It is true. Been there. (... or was it Pareto's? But Parkinson's are not better lol)

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Old 01-24-2012, 10:39 AM
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This is how business works. All communication here and the existence of this forum itself is only 1C and the devs goodwill.
I agree with most of what you write, Ataros, but I don't agree with this. Technically you may be correct but it is so hugely in 1C's interest to promote in the west that in reality rather than technicality you are wrong.

Fact: Ubi is doing a rubbish job at promoting/communicating.

Fact: Promotion is required outside of Russia.

Result: 1C is promoting/communicating outside Russia.

Unfortunately, the way business works is that very little is done for "goodwill", at least in my experience. The party who has most skin in the game always ends up picking up the slack.

The existence of this forum? Due to the fact that promotion is required. If you wish to drag goodwill into the picture then it is limited to the fact that goodwill from the customer is required for the next purchase. Luthier has already made his views of this forum quite plain - I doubt he would bother if he really had a choice!

Having said all that, I'm having an absolute blast online whilst patiently waiting for the patch and looking forward to BoM immensely.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:56 AM
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Fact: Ubi is doing a rubbish job at promoting/communicating.

Fact: Promotion is required outside of Russia.

Result: 1C is promoting/communicating outside Russia.
Yes. And the above does not make it an 1C obligation and therefore BlackSix's obligation as some may imagine. UBI has this obligation because they are paid for this as a publisher. MG is paid for development only. 1C is paid for communication within Russia only because it is a publisher in Russia only. This is what I mean.

Same with customers who did not have an obligation to purchase the game or sequel. Some here act as if 1C obliged them to purchase the game or a new PC lol This was their goodwill/freewill only. Maybe I should use a better word than goodwill

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Old 01-24-2012, 09:00 PM
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DLC is a tricky one - I don't mind paying but don't want the community divided. Don't know any other way forward except for the current expansions model.

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Yes. And the above does not make it an 1C obligation and therefore BlackSix's obligation as some may imagine.
I'm fully in agreement regarding BlackSix - very appreciative of his efforts! There's a saying about not shooting the messenger which some would do well to remember.
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Looking forward to the next word!
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nice news.

When I advice that is implemented a very nice dynamic quick mission builder, i will buy this sim. i the other stuff, is great, is the best.

can I request a pic of the Bf 109 F-2 from the new sequel, please? and don't be cheap with the skins.
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