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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 05-05-2011, 09:16 PM
David Hayward David Hayward is offline
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I think you might feel a little different if you bought CoD, one of the first things your realise when you pause the game and you can still move the camera and all the lighting and shadows still move etc is how easy it is to set up high quality screen shots, I mean you can even turn up the graphics while paused, take your screen and turn it down again.
So honestly its not that hard to focus on the bits that do look good granted, but when you play it I have to agree with philip that the terrain just doesnt feel like a country but more like a mixture of different countries, feels odd, cant really explain it.
Sorry, but you need a little more than "it doesn't feel right" to describe CoD if you're going to be pimping for WoP, because WoP feels like complete and total S H I T E.

And I really am not trying to convince you that WoP sucks. Feel free to enjoy it. I love playing RoF. But don't start talking about how WoP is better than CoD when the best you can come up with to back that up is "it just feels better". I own WoP. I know how it "feels", and I have no problem explaining it.
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:18 PM
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Old 05-05-2011, 09:22 PM
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True RoF is very good, but i think the dev team was bigger and the game was generally coded better at the beginning.
~The photos above show what CoD needs, closer tree spacing for sure and small low bushes round the field boundaries, amongst other small things that add to the greater picture.
Like the fields are very scattered, British farm land fields are usually in groups, several of wheat, then several grazing land in a group for example, if you look at the screenshot above it looks too patchwork like, and compare it too the real photo you can see exactly what I mean.
Hope that clears that up David, Cheers for the aid W0ef

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Old 05-05-2011, 09:48 PM
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This is a great comparison between spring and summer (BoB time line), you can see how in IL2COD the grass is more yellowed by the hot of the summer, but some cultivated zone.

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It is just wrong and not only for the repetition but for the environment that looks spring or autumn.

That is not summer !
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:52 PM
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Like the fields are very scattered, British farm land fields are usually in groups, several of wheat, then several grazing land in a group for example, if you look at the screenshot above it looks too patchwork like, and compare it too the real photo you can see exactly what I mean.
Hope that clears that up David, Cheers for the aid W0ef
The screenshots I see confirm that CoD does an amazing job of replicating British farmland. It's far better than any WW2 air sim I have ever seen. I could probably convince someone that the CoD screenshot is a photo. I have no idea what you are looking at.
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:20 PM
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It is just wrong and not only for the repetition but for the environment that looks spring or autumn.

That is not summer !
It also doesn't get anywhere close to looking like a sunny day, in fact I don't recall ever seeing a sunny day that didn't look overcast and grey (green?) in WoP but then it's been a while since I spent any time with it.
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Old 05-06-2011, 04:37 AM
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[QUOTE=Buchon;279043]Is this summer ?, because the Battle over Britain was in summer.

Dont looks like that photo was taken in summer, the grass is not yellowed by the hot of the summer, it looks like in spring.

Just like in WOP, the England map in WOP looks like spring or autumn.

Pretty green and grass to eye-candy players instead do an historical accurate environment.[/QUOTE

This is certainly summer, probably July.

If it were anytime in spring (March, April, May) then the wheat fields would be green not yellow or gold. UK wheat harvest is August - that crop looks pretty ripe to me (camera filters etc taken into account).

Also the trees would have much sparser leaf cover of a much paler shade.

The colour of grass pastureland is affected by the rainfall and direct sunlight, not temperature - in a very dry summer it might start to go yellow in July, but in a wet, cloudy summer you might see very little discolouration. (Anyway, calling UK summers "hot" is a slight exaggeration - at least it was before GW boosted the temperatures).

One of the problems we have with getting the colours "right" is that the BoB ran from 10th July to 7th September which covers the harvest period - the countryside in a damp July would look very different to the same in the middle of an unusually clear September.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:23 AM
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The screenshots I see confirm that CoD does an amazing job of replicating British farmland. It's far better than any WW2 air sim I have ever seen. I could probably convince someone that the CoD screenshot is a photo. I have no idea what you are looking at.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:29 AM
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Field boundaries poorly defined. Trees too sparse. Not enough trees. Trees not dark enough, highlights too bright. No hedgerows. Yellow fields too yellow. Green fields too lime color. Not enough haze. No distant color desaturation.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:06 AM
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Field boundaries poorly defined. Trees too sparse. Not enough trees. Trees not dark enough, highlights too bright. No hedgerows. Yellow fields too yellow. Green fields too lime color. Not enough haze. No distant color desaturation.
very well put.
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