Friday Official Update, July 27, 2012

[VO101_MMaister]

Originally Posted by hc_wolf

Oh Hell yeah!!!!

Holly crap, that hurts!

[Toni74]

Originally Posted by VO101_MMaister

Holly crap, that hurts!

children driving cars?

[VO101_MMaister]

Originally Posted by Toni74

children driving cars?

with seat belts off!

[adonys]

I'm really-really expecting a patch for today from MG..

[Blackdog_kt]

A bit of advance notice, just to be fair.

No matter the state of the update today (no update or text/pics update or patch update), let me urge everyone to discuss what is posted by Blacksix and not use the thread for their personal venting. And by urge, i mean the thread will be closely moderated. In case of off-topic posts, bickering or dueling between users, infractions will be issued and the offending posts moved or deleted.

It's been quite a while since the forum rules have been applied as they are meant to be applied because things were civilized for the most part. If it strays from that and people start acting crazy again, well, there's not much i can do to save someone who doesn't want to be saved

[hc_wolf]

Can we run a poll?

Who here would ask Rebecca Black on a date?

[banned]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

A bit of advance notice, just to be fair.

No matter the state of the update today (no update or text/pics update or patch update), let me urge everyone to discuss what is posted by Blacksix and not use the thread for their personal venting. And by urge, i mean the thread will be closely moderated. In case of off-topic posts, bickering or dueling between users, infractions will be issued and the offending posts moved or deleted.

It's been quite a while since the forum rules have been applied as they are meant to be applied because things were civilized for the most part. If it strays from that and people start acting crazy again, well, there's not much i can do to save someone who doesn't want to be saved

Wow, we're all getting a bit nervy. I can feel the tension building. The boss has lined us up and given us a right ole talking to.

Yes Sir, I will not misbehave if there is no patch. May I be excused. I would like to go to the toilet.

[PotNoodles]

Originally Posted by zapatista

patience, simply those with more patience

if 1c/MG are still working on patches (albeit very slowly) and are also working on a sequel (which process has to address most CoD faults/complaints at the same time) then it means the ship is still going forward, and we have hope of a fixed/working product at the end of this process. at least somebody is doing SOMETHING to fix it and produce a working product. since they cant row faster then they currently are (with their limited team), constantly throwing beer cans and insults at them is rather counter productive.

No person in this forum made them release the game in such a state in the first place and many reasonable people have lost their patience because it still isn't fixed a year and a half after release. Most reasonable people are only reasonable up until a point.

Originally Posted by zapatista

one thing many people here seem to forget is that there are so many current problems in CoD exactly because it was such an ambitious project, and it is the depth and complexity of the game and gfx engine at the heart of the sim that is creating these multiple problems. personally i am happier that they overshot their mark with great ambition, rather then have them produce some dumbded down and limited product (which would have been easier to make).

I think people are well aware that there are many problems and I think that is why some people are starting to "throw beer cans" as you put it. But you must realise that people bought into this game mainly because they where told about the depth and realism of the game etc. What I don't think they expected though was for it to have so many bugs after all this time.

Originally Posted by zapatista

[U]in the other camp we have the same small clique of whiners and haters (and the odd new lost spotty faced tween who wonders in) who seem to believe that yelling loudly or constantly whining will magically solve things, and those same people are NOT seen providing constructive feedback in bug report threads or participation in reasoned debated to try and improve things.

No, you have (had) reasonable people who just got fed up, like most reasonable people do when they feel like they are been taken for a ride. People are only reasonable up until to a point because they are not blessed with the patience of a saint. Everyone has a point they get to before they get sick and fed up.

Originally Posted by zapatista

the one aspect that blame can be correctly given to luthiers team, even if we know that they have limited resources and people, is that there isnt some hierarchy in priority bug fixes being addressed that deal with gameplay bugs that can be relatively easily fixed (and which would significantly reduce the volume of complaints), eg the "lack of COOP" issue, AI team commands, some specific control/instrument issues in some planes, lack of AI ground activity at airfields, allow some basic campaign function offline/online etc..

Yes you are right.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Originally Posted by PotNoodles

No person in this forum made them release the game in such a state in the first place and many reasonable people have lost their patience because it still isn't fixed a year and a half after release. Most reasonable people are only reasonable up until a point.

I notice your registration date is March 2012.

Your right it was no 'one person' but If you go back a year or so and read the posts you'll see that Maddox Games and 1C were placed under quite a significant amount of pressure from the community to release the game in whatever state it was in.

Things have quietend down round hear since the headdy days of early March 20-11!

[ParaB]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Your right it was no 'one person' but If you go back a year or so and read the posts you'll see that Maddox Games and 1C were placed under quite a significant amount of pressure from the community to release the game in whatever state it was in.

Yep.The fine chaps at 1c were just about to put the last touches on the awesomenest combat flightsim evar when the pressure by the community forced them to release an unfinished, universally trashed piece of buggy entertainment software. That's exactly how I remember it. Dozens of threads with titles like "We don't care about FSAA!!" and "We don't worry about the performance, really!" basically littered the forum.

Be sure.