Of all the 'niggling' damge model issues, this one is my greatest irritation :( - Page 4

JG52Krupi · #31 07-31-2011, 10:37 AM

Sorry but this thread is full of fail and a load of BS to boot.

What Skoshi Tiger said is perfectly valid and lets be honest here the only aircraft that has a straight break is the hurri and if you have eyes you can clearly see that the aircraft has a weak point where the wing connects to the root joint but yes I would have liked to see some more visal damage in that break (See below).

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AND regarding the straight breaks in general well just take a quick look at the structure of an aircraft wing and you would understand why a wing would basically have a straight break.. the clues are in the ribs...

some of you guys clearly don't have a clue.

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See the break is running along the rib...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ec4t...eature=related

See look at the video REAL LIFE tell me how that is modelled wrongly FFS....

STAY TUNED AS I GATHER MORE EVIDENCE TO PROVE WHY AN AICRAFT WING WOULD BE EXPECTED TO BREAK PARALLEL TO A SODDING RIB.... WTF!!!

And before someone inquires about the spit wing aircraft had different internal structures, if i recall correctly the wing skin has more load running through it and so thats why a parallel break is not modeled.

JG52Uther · #32 07-31-2011, 10:43 AM

I think whats being said Krupi is that the wing should be torn off, not snapped off cleanly like a kitkat.
Go back to bed Mr Grumpy

JG52Krupi · #33 07-31-2011, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JG52Uther

I think whats being said Krupi is that the wing should be torn off, not snapped off cleanly like a kitkat.
Go back to bed Mr Grumpy

I agree I said it should not be a clean break but the weak point would always be running along a rib hence its going to snap along that line.

Check out every video of 190 being shot down by an RAF cannon its to me it look like a pretty straight snap, then compare the area in the vid to a picture of an 190s wing internal structure.

Tbh Uther a kitkat is a perfect example of a weak point between two ribs...

furbs · #34 07-31-2011, 11:06 AM

Krupi, i think were saying its fine for the hurri to break along the weak spot like you said.

the problem is there is no visual damage of the break. it looks like the wing has been laser cut.

i would guess any wing breaks from are from cannons breaking the spars, then the wing fails along the ribs as you say, but im sure there would be damage along the break.

Or the shells blew up the fuel tank, and then the wing....i dont think i have to say any more mate.

The wing break as in your pic looks unnatural and too clean, thats what we are saying.

JG52Krupi · #35 07-31-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by furbs

Krupi, i think were saying its fine for the hurri to break along the weak spot like you said.

the problem is there is no visual damage of the break. it looks like the wing has been laser cut.

i would guess any wing breaks from are from cannons breaking the spars, then the wing fails along the ribs as you say, but im sure there would be damage along the break.

Or the shells blew up the fuel tank, and then the wing....i dont think i have to say any more mate.

The wing break as in your pic looks unnatural and too clean, thats what we are saying.

Okay maybe a bit more spar jutting out perhaps a bit more of the cover protruding from the snap line... but just check out the video of the 190s with the wing blown off...

But the internals of each aircraft are different see this pic

The damage modeled in COD is exactly where you would expect to see a break, the spar is screwed onto the wing joint its just gonna be ripped off similar to the image in COD... just a little more work required.

Ataros · #36 07-31-2011, 11:58 AM

Some people play too much WOP which does not model internal structure of aircraft correctly.

There is necessary visual detail where material is actually torn apart.
Deformation from a collision is different than deformation from structure overload in result of gunfire (different vector of forces applied).

JG52Krupi · #37 07-31-2011, 11:59 AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...completed.html

Just to add some more info on this particular hurri break.

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The outer wing seems to be held in place by four bolts only, when they shear this is what you would see so it is modeled correctly.

kyletiernan · #38 07-31-2011, 12:29 PM

to be honest i enjoy playing Wings of Prey much more than Cliffs of Dover just because its such a polished game and everything works as it should. I would still play Il2 1946 modded than Cliffs of Dover in its current state.

furbs · #39 07-31-2011, 12:32 PM

Yes Krupi, your COD pic looks just like the real pic where the wing has been "removed" prob with spanners and stuff, and not ripped off by cannon fire from a 109 at 250MPH

edit. look at your sig. and come on TS you spoon.

JG52Krupi · #40 07-31-2011, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by furbs

Yes Krupi, your COD pic looks just like the real pic where the wing has been "removed" prob with spanners and stuff, and not ripped off by cannon fire from a 109 at 250MPH

edit. look at your sig. and come on TS you spoon.

That's a 109

not a hurri completely different structure.

Just watching the F1 I will be on there soon.