Friday update and discussions 2011-03-18

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

LOL are you out of your mind?

Go back though the responses and think how you would answer the nonsense?

BOB COD has been released. Oleg is working on patches. There won't be anything coming from this forums that will help him until many users have BOB COD running.

He should answer some reasonable questions and tell all the whiners to go pound sand!!!

[Trumper]

Depending which date is correct we should find out in 3 - 4 days

Originally Posted by Oldschool61

He should answer some reasonable questions and tell all the whiners to go pound sand!!!

Or he could tell all his diciples who only cheer and clap, 'thanks for nothing'!

[Sturm_Williger]

Originally Posted by BigC208

If they get the feeling of flight as close as RoF we're indeed in for a treat. For some it will be a rude awakening though. Flying full real in Il2 was hard at first. In CoD it could be pretty hard for a flight sim novice to just get a plane of the ground, let alone fight with it in full real. I'm just going to start with the Tiger Moth and see how that does in basic flight manouvres, then a Hurricane and Spitfire. I'll keep the 109 in the hanger untill I get a good feel for the inflight behaviour of the sim. Hate crashing on landing time and time again.

I think some of the critics that we have here among us have forgotten about the joys of a nice dawn patrol in a well simulated enviroment. Realize, it's 2011, being ticked off because you're not getting the award winning simulator of the year 2021 is silly. Someone here had pics of one of the 1991 sim that I really enjoyed then. Chuck Yeagers Air Combat. I stood in awe in a computer store watching that demo for 20 minutes on a 486@ 66mhz. I Would've never enjoyed that game had I known at that time what Il2 would look like in 2001. CoD has me giddy like that again, to the point that I'll buy whatever it takes to run it properly. Watch CoD get released, read the reviews and comments on the forum. Make up your own mind and pull the trigger, or don't, if you're not happy with what's offered.

Despite whatever might be "wrong", according to a few very vocal forum members, this is going to be the premier kick *ss WW2 flight simulator for some time to come.

Well said. I'm with you here, I simply don't care that it may not look photorealistic - for me, it looks sooooo damn good. Plus all the new FM and DM and AI goodness
I wish those people who say it doesn't look better than WoP could see what I see with my eyes.

[David Hayward]

Tree, have you heard that Biggs is going to have to kill his grandparents if he wants to play this game? I'm beginning to see your side on this.

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Or he could tell all his diciples who only cheer and clap, 'thanks for nothing'!

Tell me Tree..How much money have you invested in COD ?
What is there for all of us to lose ? What can go wrong with COD ?
When I read posts like yours and Heliocon, I keep wondering if you are secret investors afraid of loosing money in this venture...
What could be negative about this game ? You don't even need to buy it...
Just wait and see the world wide reaction and then you'll decide ...
No need to be sarcastic about those who feel that we are VERY lucky to have Oleg building us the best flightsim ever...

Salute !

[Redwan]

Are there any chances that the next patch includes the new meteo effects ?

And as BoB is released, we should start to see some vids on youtube, it should help to wait to get the box.

[Heliocon]

For the love of god... FIRST
Quote:
"Originally Posted by choctaw111
By design, the game will be able to take advantage of the latest technology for years to come...so if you have a current rig, the sim will always look great.
Tree, if you have said some things to praise Oleg's newest creation, I haven't seen it.
If you like Cliffs of Dover so much, why are you so negative?
I have said from the beginning that Oleg will surpass my wildest imagination and from what I have seen over the years I seem to be spot on.
This is only gaging from the short video cliffs and numerous photos.
I can't imagine what goodies are in store once we have an opportunity to mess around with it. "

This post from choc was against tree, I responded to this post or more specifically this statement: "By design, the game will take advantage of the latest technology for years to come" I said upon release that is NOT true, because the latest tech is dx11 which is not in the release version.

In reply I posted:
"Its a lie, it is not able to take advantage of the latest tech OR EVEN CURRENT TECH. Why? Because DX11 has been available for coming up to two years now and its not ingame (and devs would of known about it/be able to get info before the general public). Now I am not saying that they wont add it in (which they said they are going to do), but if you run it dx9 thats very dated, dx10 is also getting long in the tooth.

Point is on release the game's engine will be antiquated upon release, it may look good, but its foolish to call (and a lie) to say it will be able to harness all the tools for years to come since it cant even use hardware and software from coming up to two years ago!"

While that may of been alittle strong, its the truth, and I picked the word antiquated specifically because of the statement that the game will take advantage of all the newest hardware and software (which it wont).

Seriously this boards nuts, WHEN did I EVER say that there was another flight sim better or comparable to COD? I never said that, but because people on this board are to lazy to actually read they would know what I was arguing about in the first place before people dragged the discussion down by saying I was whinning because of no DX11. I was not doing anything of the sort, I was just saying that it did NOT use the most modern hardware and software. So when you say I am whinning about lack of dx11 on release date - that is wrong.


@Black - this is what you said "...to which you respond with "don't be an idiot making assumptions". Then, someone comes along and corrects the data you based your assessment of our supposed idiocy on, a correction which you accepted. Ergo, self-contradiction comedy.
Do yourself and all of us a favor favor, press the "preview post" once in a while and read what you are about to post before actually submitting it, it will help make you a more likeable person overall"

Actually if you had botherd to read, he never posted his original source, and infact said that current market share was only 5% or less, without sighting a source. He was completely wrong, as he himself pointed out and upon repost he posted up the 17% number and where he got it from, which was correct. If you are going to make a statement you need to be able to back it up and not just fling mud without actually making a counter argument/thesis etc. As you noticed I posted a number and said where it came from, and included a link, something many on this forum fail to do.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by Heliocon

For the love of god... FIRST
Quote:
"Originally Posted by choctaw111
By design, the game will be able to take advantage of the latest technology for years to come...so if you have a current rig, the sim will always look great.
Tree, if you have said some things to praise Oleg's newest creation, I haven't seen it.
If you like Cliffs of Dover so much, why are you so negative?
I have said from the beginning that Oleg will surpass my wildest imagination and from what I have seen over the years I seem to be spot on.
This is only gaging from the short video cliffs and numerous photos.
I can't imagine what goodies are in store once we have an opportunity to mess around with it. "

This post from choc was against tree, I responded to this post or more specifically this statement: "By design, the game will take advantage of the latest technology for years to come" I said upon release that is NOT true, because the latest tech is dx11 which is not in the release version.

In reply I posted:
"Its a lie, it is not able to take advantage of the latest tech OR EVEN CURRENT TECH. Why? Because DX11 has been available for coming up to two years now and its not ingame (and devs would of known about it/be able to get info before the general public). Now I am not saying that they wont add it in (which they said they are going to do), but if you run it dx9 thats very dated, dx10 is also getting long in the tooth.

Point is on release the game's engine will be antiquated upon release, it may look good, but its foolish to call (and a lie) to say it will be able to harness all the tools for years to come since it cant even use hardware and software from coming up to two years ago!"

While that may of been alittle strong, its the truth, and I picked the word antiquated specifically because of the statement that the game will take advantage of all the newest hardware and software (which it wont).

Seriously this boards nuts, WHEN did I EVER say that there was another flight sim better or comparable to COD? I never said that, but because people on this board are to lazy to actually read they would know what I was arguing about in the first place before people dragged the discussion down by saying I was whinning because of no DX11. I was not doing anything of the sort, I was just saying that it did NOT use the most modern hardware and software. So when you say I am whinning about lack of dx11 on release date - that is wrong.

Dont waste your time then, heh?

[Heliocon]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Maybe you shoud refrain from using vulgar language in a forum that is 13+.

After rereading the posts basically I think you need to follow your own advice and base your arguments on sound reasoning and evidence for your points.

In several posts I have given you the opportunity to name a Combat Flight Sim that uses DirectX 11 and all those 'current edge' technologies that you read about. You haven't been able to put even one forward and yet you continue to call people liars and resort to swear words. Come on, that's just plain childish!

Matter how loudly you say the same thing over and over agin you will not change other peoples opinions unless you can back up your statements with fact.

Oleg originally said that he was going to use DirectX 11, then as its stability didn't go as planned (as with the two other recent cutting edge Combat Flight Sims ) he told us about the problems and gave us the ammended plan, and you call him a liar, I say that he is being honest.

Back to the topic at hand.

Cheers!

Really you did? Thats funny, because I never said there was a flight sim that uses that tech, but as usual you cant be botherd to read... What statements did I make that I did not back up with facts that you are refering to?
You need to go and learn what a logical fallacy is, setting up a straw man argument to knock down does not make you right. Because thats all you are doing, and as usual you are either too incompetent or to lazy to read. I actually linked my statistic source, and how I arrived at the numbers I stated.

Infact your post is rediculous, so since no game has (or infact flightsim in its small niche market) has used a specific cutting edge new technology before, it therefore does not work and is not cutting edge tech? Because thats the argument you just made in that post.

Also there is a reason why its called "cutting edge/new tech/next gen" why? Because the first few programs to use the new tech are making next gen engines, once everyone starts using them then its current gen technology...