Cliffs of Dover, a Year Later - Page 32

David Hayward · #**311** 03-30-2012, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff

>>Yes, I asked. So far, no answer. It seems like there should be a reason for an argument that goes on and on and on. But there appears to be none. <<

Do you also go up to complete strangers having a private argument of their own, and demand to know the answer (if there is one) and expect all eyes to instantly turn on you?

This isn't a private argument. If you want it to be private, take it to PMs.

#**312** 03-30-2012, 05:46 PM

Chivas said:

>>Falstaff, Its called common sence...you should try it.<<

Playground 101 aside...I'm not the one who take sit upon himself to be self-appointed oracle of each step inside the dev house, or making spurious generalisations about people's motives in questioning who is reponsible for this goddamn-awful fiasco...all the while adopting a tone of detached factualness. When pushed on this months (and years) previously you said you have zero inside track on the dev process, and unlike some of us, have never worked in a dev software house.

It may impress and seems coolly logical to some younger members. It doesn't fool me for a second, and, I'd guess, others. It's mostly a veil for attacking the critics. Sorry, whiners.

*Common-sense* dictates you dont make yourself sound like a mouthpiece or intellectual proclaimer of the ongoing dev process...if you have not a whit of a sniff of a jot of clue about what is actually going on inside there.

In reality it's just 'Dont panic, the first ship may be sinking, but just look at the nice shadows coming through the wheel in the cabin of the next ship...'

I find your assumptions, and the tone that delivers them, laughable.

I'm surprised others haven't called you on it more often.

Ben

#**313** 03-30-2012, 05:54 PM

David Hayward said:

>>This isn't a private argument. If you want it to be private, take it to PMs. <<

No, because you seem to stick your nose in everywhere, especially if you can get an argument out of it, and display your all-seeing powers of patience and detachment. You seem to specialise in going after the critics, especially those (liek the poster of the Youtube video) who do not have English as their native language. So I'm going after you, and your supercilious condescending forum manner.

In public or private, I'm easy either way. Why not both?

But make it quick, another ban is probably imminent...

Chivas · #**314** 03-30-2012, 05:56 PM

Let me make this real simple for you Falstaff. When you look at a healthy baby you don't see something that can't talk, walk, or run. As you get older and wiser Falstaff, you will learn there is a good possibility that the baby will grow up to be able to talk, walk, and run. Of course alot of things can go wrong in the process and it won't work out, but I think you may start to understand. Give it time, let it sink in.

#**315** 03-30-2012, 05:59 PM

Chivas,

You'll have to do better than that.

And dont throw that baby out with the bathwater.

All the arguments about it being a different dev team, leader, set of circumstances are written in 48 point burning gold letters atop the nearest hill.

It wont wash.

Ben

Chivas · #**316** 03-30-2012, 06:03 PM

OK Falstaff, I see this going to take sometime. I will keep repeating it until you get it right.

"Let me make this real simple for you Falstaff. When you look at a healthy baby you don't see something that can't talk, walk, or run. As you get older and wiser Falstaff, you will learn there is a good possibility that the baby will grow up to be able to talk, walk, and run. Of course alot of things can go wrong in the process and it won't work out, but I think you may start to understand. Give it time, let it sink in."

David Hayward · #**317** 03-30-2012, 06:06 PM

Apparently Falstaff can't explain why it's important to determine the CoD financing structure. Does anyone else have a good reason?

#**318** 03-30-2012, 06:10 PM

Chivas,

In order to be able to patronise someone, they have to be susceptible. I'm probably a good deal older than you, and a lot more experienced in software dev, having worked in it for a few years some years ago. You're off to a bad start?

So, what are the devs working on next Tuesday, say about lunch-time? Surely your delineated step-by-step explanation of their inner working can yield this info? Now dont tell me the crystal ball is hazing over....

Ben

#**319** 03-30-2012, 06:13 PM

David Hayward said:

>>Apparently Falstaff can't explain why it's important to determine the CoD financing structure. Does anyone else have a good reason?<<

Apparently I have no wish to, and have never expressed the slightest interest in it, sunflower. But others have and that's good enough for me, God.

Now, justify your posts and presence here. Why? Because I said. (good, innit?)

David Hayward · #**320** 03-30-2012, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falstaff

David Hayward said:

>>Apparently Falstaff can't explain why it's important to determine the CoD financing structure. Does anyone else have a good reason?<<

Apparently I have no wish to, and have never expressed the slightest interest in it, sunflower. But others have and that's good enough for me, God.

It's fine with me, too. I'm not looking for people who can't think of any good reasons, I'm looking for someone who does have a good reason.