the failure of clod is a failure of US ALL

[lonewulf]

People were certainly vicious about the game and the Dev. Team but not without good reason. The game was dreadful when it was released and there was genuine disappointment in the community about a game we had been anticipating for years. I feel certain that with better communication with the community it may have been possible to turn thing around but of course that's easy to say in hindsight. Who knows what was really going on behind the scenes. What saddens me is the lost potential. The multiplayer side of the game is now highly functional and in my view maybe just two or three patches away from masterpiece status. If the game is to be left to die on the vine then that will be a very great shame and frankly, quite amazing.

[JG27_brook]

refusing to do a 1944 plane set with p51 p47 and fw190 is just dumb, this plane set would have sold alot more copies and we all know this to be a fact!!!

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by JG27_brook

refusing to do a 1944 plane set with p51 p47 and fw190 is just dumb, this plane set would have sold alot more copies and we all know this to be a fact!!!

I disagree. Nothing wrong with the BoB.
Besides, you do a 1944 sim you have a lot more planes/objects/maps to make. Way too much.

If they really wanted to have a hit, it would have been functional, and it would have been in North Africa.

[Insuber]

Without polemics, and having been always a supporter of this sim, I cannot buy into the "blame the customer" theories.
The whole SoW-CloD-BoM venture is a perfect example of how not to run a project. Catastrophic mistakes were made years before the release, crippling the product beyond hope, and wasting huge amounts of money without any logic as we learned from former team members one year ago. The release of a broken product destroyed the credibility of the team and depressed the sales. I would say a word about Luthier's leadership, but kicking the loosers is not my cup of tea. He had the power, he had the time, he had the resources, he had the Il-2 name and reputation. He failed.

Let's watch at Jason's results, trying to suppress emotions and judge in an objective, dispassionate way their product, as a true flight sim fan should always do.

Best wishes,
Insuber

[swiss]

Originally Posted by raaaid

ive done my good blowing the fire by posting some bizarre thing, well i learnt my lesson

Only... your posts were never Clod related.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by Insuber

He had the power, he had the time, he had the resources, he had the Il-2 name and reputation. He failed.

Wrong. He had only maybe 6 months before release after Oleg was forced to leave by "anti-crisis management" and he had all 1C limitations and restrictions. I wonder how long 777 will last under these limitations before Jason and Loft leave (e.g. take 13 months budget only for BoS). They will have to make a deal with DCS next I guess.

Russian corporations are very different from western corporations.

[Freycinet]

Of course management primarily looks at sales and not forum postings. But OF COURSE an orchestrated campaign of hate is also going to affect sales. So many people have looked at my movies and commented, "wauw, this sim looks fantastic, but I only read online that it was crap, what gives?".

The haters really got what they wanted so dearly, the demise of the franchise, and now they try to pretend they played no part in it. Disgusting.

[raaaid]

i didnt mean it was people fault

it was not my fault yet feel it like a personal failure as a flight sim fan

but not point pointing fingers

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Freycinet

Of course management primarily looks at sales and not forum postings. But OF COURSE an orchestrated campaign of hate is also going to affect sales. So many people have looked at my movies and commented, "wauw, this sim looks fantastic, but I only read online that it was crap, what gives?".

True, but once they bought it you can be sure they will share their opinion.

This game sucked all the way until the last patch, that's the truth - and you can't expect to successfully sell a minor grade product.
You could only delay the economical failure of such a product with positive propaganda - but you can never turn it away.

[Freycinet]

Originally Posted by swiss

This game sucked all the way until the last patch, that's the truth

Your truth is not my truth, and I don't think you have a monopoly of "the truth", even though you present it like that ("that's the truth")

I thought it was fantastic from the first viewing, and it got progressively better with the patches.

Yes, sure, dissatisfied customers should vent their disapproval, but hating the sim and staying on the forums for two years, posting multiple times every day about that dissatisfaction like some of the haters in here?

- That's no longer being unhappy with a product that cost two movie tickets, that's a campaign of hate to make sure nobody else will be able to give the sim a go. What a waste of a life, but then again, it seems those people didn't really have one...

I would really have liked to give Battle of Moscow a go, but the haters did what they could to deny others that opportunity.

Here are the screenies of what we will never see... Oh rejoice, oh happiness, BOM was cancelled!

http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php/...id=2#photoid=2

Must make every hater super-happy... Thanks god Luthier wasn't allowed to bring us cockpits like this... http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachmen...1&d=1340979063