Should 1c finally be concerned about competition? Eagle Dynamics "Flying Legends".

[Buzpilot]

ED have 150% larger map (populated area) than CloD, 64 bit (no stutter), and I think CloD will get in big trouble if they want to implement all their plans, if they don't get into 64 bit fast.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by Robert

Why no room for both games on your hard drives? I've got Balck Shark, IL2, X Plane 9 and RoF on my PC.

The topic sounds more like a threat than an actual look at something interesting and fun for our hobby.

If you're honestly that dismayed at what's going on at 1C and the condition of the game, then why stick around and make hollow threats? Makes no sense to me.

+1

Besides, the DCS 'environment' leaves me cold. The landscape is less interesting than say, the Slovakia map in 1946. The 'atmospherics' can't compare with 'Cliffs' in any serious way IMO.

I had a fun time learning the full real systems on the Warthog, but once I'd learned them, didn't pick the sim/game up again in any serious way.

I can see that for dedicated Mustang fans, the new expansion'll be fun, but we'll see. Given time for both camps to evolve, in 5 years time we'll be able to make a substantial comparitive evaluation. No offence to the OP, but to say that 1C had better watch out simply because of a Mustang on the horizon is I think a little premature.

[Raggz]

DCS is bringing in one WWII plane into a modern era map makes no competition for IL2 at all. Unless DCS decides to make a new WWII game aka Lock On and the Mustang being some kind of a try-out.
The Mustang is just a collectors piece so to speak

[BigC208]

Would I buy the P51 for the DCS universe? Yes. Would 1C have anything to worry about? No. Right now I have RoF, DCS A10, Il21946 and Il2 CoD on my harddrive and they get a 20-10-10-60% workout. On the noncombat side I play around a bit with the accusim Spitfire for FSX. I think the DCS P51 will be a blast to learn to fly properly. After that's accomplished, unless a ME109 or FW190 show up, it'll only get flown every now and then, just like my Accusim Spitfire. Now, if RoF ever get's it in it's head to get full on into the Spanish Civil War or WWII theatres, 1C might have something to worry about IF it's still buggy.

[danjama]

Good replies so far. I didn't mean to cause offence to anybody, whether happy with 1c or not. Sorry if that came across.

I think either many of you have tunnel vision (suggesting that it is JUST a Mustang, when it is flaunted as the 'Flying Legends' series), or i'm being too enthusiastic by predicting the future of ED's Legends series. For sure there is nothing official or announced, such as opponents or terrain, but there's also nothing to say these things are not on their roadmap.

I think we can all acknowledge that ED are not the fastest company in producing patches or updates, and they certainly haven't had the best business model so far. But take note, there is now a seperate development team for this series from ED. There is nothing to suggest that they do not have much bigger plans, and that they will not update their series regularly, ala RoF.

I'm not meaning to attack CloD or 1c in any way with this thread. I'm just genuinely excited about the possibility of a new WW2 air series, especially if it involves the detail ED are known for, with eventually lots of different planes. However, neither I or any of you can deny the amount of unhappy customers on this forum lately. So that's what prompted me to start this thread. Nothing against 1c.

We should all be excited about this potential product. I agree completely that they will have to learn to populate the terrains better, and create a better atmosphere, but that is something that should come naturally as they develop and research the theatre, and realise that maps can be a lot smaller than they are with Jet combat aircraft.

P.S. Not happy that this has been moved to the lounge, where it will likely not be seen by visitors. It's relevant enough to CloD to stay on the main page IMO. So, thanks for that mods.

(Almost forgot, the series is being produced with the help of 'The Fighter Collection' of Duxford. For an idea of what might be coming, maybe we can look at their current, past and future acquisitions).

[trademe900]

Good point danjama, there are indeed far too many with tunnel vision who are much too in love with their captors, who have basically extorted them if you consider what the game was said to be like. This is obvious through the sheer madness of folks who are on their knees with adoration for the 'privilege' of Friday updates! Outright exploitation of the community.

I think it would be a good thing if people were not so close minded and instead excited of the prospect of a new ww2 sim. Healthy competition is exactly what would benefit this genre and prevent disasters like Clod.

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

Originally Posted by trademe900

Good point danjama, there are indeed far too many with tunnel vision who are much too in love with their captors, who have basically extorted them if you consider what the game was said to be like. This is obvious through the sheer madness of folks who are on their knees with adoration for the 'privilege' of Friday updates! Outright exploitation of the community.

I think it would be a good thing if people were not so close minded and instead excited of the prospect of a new ww2 sim. Healthy competition is exactly what would benefit this genre and prevent disasters like Clod.

If the two actualy competed you might have a point, clearly two different products that share a common theater.

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

To any of you claiming disaster and ruin for our favorite genre I recomend as an example you read through reviews and early forums for Rise of Flight at release(a sim detractors of CoD commonly refer to)...very rocky start to say the least...so rocky the company was sold, bad reviews and big mouth forum flyers do wonders for new sims that survive mostly through a select few developers willing to risk there professional futures for the love of ww2 combat flight simulator's, a genre with shrinking profits and community filled with members dedicated and willing to do anything to spread there negative opinion(over and over) of a flight sim that is still developing, to the dismay of posible new members that might become our future aces.

[ATAG_Doc]

+1 goes to the dude above.

[Sven]

Meh, I like the DCS series, but I never play them for long.
The online experience of player vs player in CoD MP is just so much more attractive and rewarding to me and never gets old even in 1946.
I might just buy it, but I'm not a big fan of the Mustang, hope they add an oponent ( FW190D/Me-262 )