Microsoft Flight

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Wow, thanks for posting this, especially all the pics. I had been thinking of buying FS + A2A Power 3 Spitfire + effects addons which would easily havevset me back $100+.

I think I'll just redirect that cash towards a new monitor instead and just wait for the upcoming CoD patch (which I know will fix every broken/missing feature mentioned in this forum).

I'm puzzled though. None of your pics had any Barbie fashions -- not even a Spitgirl! Very disappointing.

Actually, FSX is not that bad a choice if you don't mind certain FM weaknesses in default FMs and you've got the wallet for a few add-ons that circumvent them. Not everything there is though, just some well done stuff and you'll have a good enough time. For example, getting a weather add-on along with some terrain add-on for the continent you mostly fly, plus a couple of aircraft you like. Plus, today's PCs can actually run it well enough.

I've tried some very good WWII birds on a friend's PC and they have the individual aircraft systems down to a rivet sometimes.
The rest can differ depending on the add-on makers: you may easily see freeware aircraft done to a higher standard than payware add-on.

The thing with civie flight sims is that it's very modular, so individual designers can decide how much to push the envelope. That means you need to do some research before deciding what to buy.

I could easily suggest all A2A products that contain the enhanced accusim module, the FW190s from classics hangar and aerosoft's PBY Catalina. I've flown all of those on various occasions when visiting that buddy of mine and that's how i happened to know enough CEM and then some to transition smoothly to CoD

[bw_wolverine]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Actually, FSX is not that bad a choice if you don't mind certain FM weaknesses in default FMs and you've got the wallet for a few add-ons that circumvent them. Not everything there is though, just some well done stuff and you'll have a good enough time. For example, getting a weather add-on along with some terrain add-on for the continent you mostly fly, plus a couple of aircraft you like. Plus, today's PCs can actually run it well enough.

I've tried some very good WWII birds on a friend's PC and they have the individual aircraft systems down to a rivet sometimes.
The rest can differ depending on the add-on makers: you may easily see freeware aircraft done to a higher standard than payware add-on.

The thing with civie flight sims is that it's very modular, so individual designers can decide how much to push the envelope. That means you need to do some research before deciding what to buy.

I could easily suggest all A2A products that contain the enhanced accusim module, the FW190s from classics hangar and aerosoft's PBY Catalina. I've flown all of those on various occasions when visiting that buddy of mine and that's how i happened to know enough CEM and then some to transition smoothly to CoD

Yeah, don't write off the A2A's modifications to FSX based on this.

The accusim Spitfire is the best plane I've flown on a computer. Obviously no guns, but I have no doubt that at this point in time, it's the closest I'll ever get to knowing what it's like to fly a Spitfire.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Wow, thanks for posting this, especially all the pics. I had been thinking of buying FS + A2A Power 3 Spitfire + effects addons which would easily havevset me back $100+.

I think I'll just redirect that cash towards a new monitor instead and just wait for the upcoming CoD patch (which I know will fix every broken/missing feature mentioned in this forum).

I'm puzzled though. None of your pics had any Barbie fashions -- not even a Spitgirl! Very disappointing.

Ha, but you can customise your avatar I think... Let's see the result lol

P.s. dammit snapper now you have me thinking about a 30" monitor

[Ailantd]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Ha, but you can customise your avatar I think... Let's see the result lol

In fact CoD have far more customization for the pilot than Flight that only had 4 fixed drawings characters XD

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Wow, thanks for posting this, especially all the pics. I had been thinking of buying FS + A2A Power 3 Spitfire + effects addons which would easily havevset me back $100+.

I think I'll just redirect that cash towards a new monitor instead and just wait for the upcoming CoD patch (which I know will fix every broken/missing feature mentioned in this forum).

I'm puzzled though. None of your pics had any Barbie fashions -- not even a Spitgirl! Very disappointing.

Consider a 120hz monitor before you buy a monitor (read small print and reviews, some 120hz units exaggerate, and true 120 hz may depend on certain factors), there is a nice difference in the viewing quality though, with the 120hz.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

Consider a 120hz monitor before you buy a monitor (read small print and reviews, some 120hz units exaggerate, and true 120 hz may depend on certain factors), there is a nice difference in the viewing quality though, with the 120hz.

I'm confussed what good is a 120hz monitor if your graphics card is sending out the picture at 60hz. Does the monitor display the same scene twice per clock?

[Fly3]

Originally Posted by Ailantd

Yes I´m very serious. I don´t know what you played, but I just taken this demo shots ( all maxed graphics ) so you can see what they don´t show in the videos. Remember that this a AAA 2012 game from one of the biggest corporations out there, with a lot of years of fligh sim experience. I was expecting something far betther than this. Something that you could think... ohh, yes, now I understand why they drop FS. But they bring us this. Not even bump mapping in the terrain, in a 2012 game! O_o










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Pd: And yes, even in the non asistance "realistic" mode the FM is pfffff

I don´t post very often, but as an old IL2 fan love watching CoD evolve, but won´t play it much until it got more content.

That said Ailantd, I fully agree with you. Flight looks complete crap compared to it´s predecessor, if you only put a littly bit of work into fsx. Besides, its arcade anyway...









MS Flight, I can only laugh...

[skarden]

+1
My FSX install also looks 10x better then those screenshots of flight (at least 10x) I really don't see what flight can offer to flight sim fans that FSX doesn't do a hell of a lot better, FSX tricked out a little really can be a stunning creature, I love flying my A2A P-47 ( just one of my many "favorite" aircraft) between small airports is Australia with the excellent Orbx add-on and realtime weather as well as some other nice little add-ons, there's some truely stunning scenery to be seen.
And before anyone gives me the ol' "pfft no guns = no fun" argument, I haven't been a mad aviation fan since I was old enough to realize what they were because they can "blow stuff up", the sheer lines, power and beauty of aircraft has always been the number on appeal for me, so to fly some of these VERY VERY detailed aircraft around my home country is very satisfying indeed.

Of course that said blowing crap up is also a lot of fun too

[ATAG_MajorBorris]

Originally Posted by Ailantd

After 10 minutes trying the new released Microsoft Flight the only thing I could thought was to come here and say... THANK YOU devs, seriously... THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH !

I promise never again criticize your landscape, FM, shadows, lighting, colors, whatever... none at all! ( This is not true... but almost XD )

A corporation like Microsoft only released such a indescriptible thing that looks even more outdated than FS9. Horrible plastic sea, extremeley low resolution terrain textures, no smooth transitions between terrains, horrible cross trees from 10 years ago games, 3Dish colors and look in everything with no realistic lighting (not even good looking) at all. Even the clouds are badly ordered and you can see far clouds over closer ones... OMG! Planes and cockpits completely outdated when compared with COD ones and what a flight dinamics with zero sense of being flying. All that in a very small terrain with only 4 planes. And at least in my system, when maxed it provides less fps than CoD, wich is amazing.

So people... seriously... CoD devs, wich are a very smaller team than microsoft one with lot less budget, have achieved something far (very very far) superior product. So, even with the buggy and incomplete CoD, devs deserve our most sincere admiration.

Now... bring us the pach so we can fly it! XD

The IL2 team has been doing more with less for over a decade, it takes more then big budgets to create a cutting edge cfs. Thats the reason Microsoft was defeated years ago in the cfs market (its a war they couldnt profit from)

Now when the hardware catches up and a patch or two iron's out what is already a deep sim, many ww2 combat sim pilots will be glad Maddox kept the genre alive(despite lack of support from many in the community) cause we all know microsoft isnt going to save us.

Now... bring us the patch so we can fly in formation! lol

[louisv]

With everything graphics on max it looks like good FSX payware,
but forget FM: the Stearman feels more sluggish but otherwise just like the Icon A5 ! So its seems the FM difference between different aircraft is: more or less sluggish. 100% Arcade.

I did not find anything for TrackIR...maybe there is but I deleted it now.

Tiny world, water looks more like colored saran wrap...same look generally, but ridiculous FM. Varying the throttle on the Stearman has very little effect...They say even the experienced sim pilot will like it, well that is an outright lie.

And sooo expensive add ons...the price of a full FSX for a few islands and a couple more planes ! (no cockpit for the Mustang)

I don't think this will fly because it is so very very tame...like looking at nice pictures...maybe for The Sims crowd ?