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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-25-2011, 04:42 AM
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It is "a little bit" critical..

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_499a.html
More useless blather from a self-important video game player who is deluded by his web forum admin account into believing he is qualified to judge how a company runs its business. I can't wait for "Tom Cofield" to release a flight sim so I can write my commentary about it.
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:14 AM
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More useless blather from a self-important video game player who is deluded by his web forum admin account into believing he is qualified to judge how a company runs its business. I can't wait for "Tom Cofield" to release a flight sim so I can write my commentary about it.
You have to close your eyes AND tape them, very tightly, to not seeing how this way of running the business is blatantly wrong. Oh how I wish, as random customer #25135, to not having to write this bellshuuut all the time and instead spend my time playing a great simulation where you are NOT encountering major bugs and flaws on nearly every. single. screen...
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:29 AM
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You have to close your eyes AND tape them, very tightly, to not seeing how this way of running the business is blatantly wrong. Oh how I wish, as random customer #25135, to not having to write this bellshuuut all the time and instead spend my time playing a great simulation where you are NOT encountering major bugs and flaws on nearly every. single. screen...
The things that were done which are blatantly wrong are not even mentioned in the article.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:53 AM
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The article is not a critique of the game but rather of the way its release and pre-release were handled (in the writers opinion) How further forward it takes the game is easy to guess- nowhere. It does seem odd that there is a firestorm ongoing as to why SimHQ has not put out a review of the game yet at the same time this article gets front page space.

As to the content I think it is for the main part factual, the game was mis-represented as to what it actually was prior to release but then Ubi and the developers were hardly going to yell 'roll up, roll up, give us £50- The game doesn't really work that well but hand over the cash anyway !!'.

I'm not really up for running around with a pitchfork but the single most irksome thing for me is that one of the great names in flight sims (if not the greatest), IL2, has been used to generate sales for a product that didn't really deserve to carry that name. It was a cheap trick and for that Ubi should be rightly criticised.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:26 AM
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...never before in the history of flightsims so many that where waiting in anticipation for so long have been so let down by so few...

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Old 08-25-2011, 07:07 PM
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The biggest concern I have is despite being lambasted by SimHQ Luthier remains silent. The patch to fix it all remains a vague promise.
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Old 08-25-2011, 05:42 AM
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You have to close your eyes AND tape them, very tightly, to not seeing how this way of running the business is blatantly wrong. Oh how I wish, as random customer #25135, to not having to write this bellshuuut all the time and instead spend my time playing a great simulation where you are NOT encountering major bugs and flaws on nearly every. single. screen...
Point is we have heard it all before... its all redundant bitching now... how many times do we need someone to point out what is wrong? *golf clap* for SimHQ.... they get the Captain Obvious award... maybe the need someone writing articles that actual research something new and interesting...

I am gonna write an article about how the sky is blue.... be back later.
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It doesn't surprise me, to say the least, but then my once very favourable opinion about Maddox Games has taken a sharp downturn since "the crunch" (as I call it). I do not know if the new leadership is simply swamped with work so that communication with supporting external parties falls prey to time constraints or if they simply don't care. The former would be understandable - but then it would be easy to post a quick sticky on this board saying so - but the latter would be an inexcusable gesture of contempt to those who spent considerable time on making additional stuff for CloD (i.e. Foobar and his railway stuff). I've already heard rumors about a new behavior when it comes to being offered information for Clod and future titles - key phrase here would be "talking down to externals".

Since Oleg departed MG (and no "press release" can take that opinion away from me) the company's policies have taken a sharp turn to the worse simply by ignoring the potential and creativity of the community and the willingness of individuals to spent their freetime to help bolster the flight sim genre with a little research work of their own. If the CloD release has shown one thing then that MG isn't large enough and not "rich" enough to pull of so fundamentally complex projects without outsourcing some non-essential parts to externals ... Ilya, if you read this (which I doubt), start thinking about the way you and your guys are treating the community and the people who could support you.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:30 AM
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It doesn't surprise me, to say the least, but then my once very favourable opinion about Maddox Games has taken a sharp downturn since "the crunch" (as I call it). I do not know if the new leadership is simply swamped with work so that communication with supporting external parties falls prey to time constraints or if they simply don't care. The former would be understandable - but then it would be easy to post a quick sticky on this board saying so - but the latter would be an inexcusable gesture of contempt to those who spent considerable time on making additional stuff for CloD (i.e. Foobar and his railway stuff). I've already heard rumors about a new behavior when it comes to being offered information for Clod and future titles - key phrase here would be "talking down to externals".

Since Oleg departed MG (and no "press release" can take that opinion away from me) the company's policies have taken a sharp turn to the worse simply by ignoring the potential and creativity of the community and the willingness of individuals to spent their freetime to help bolster the flight sim genre with a little research work of their own. If the CloD release has shown one thing then that MG isn't large enough and not "rich" enough to pull of so fundamentally complex projects without outsourcing some non-essential parts to externals ... Ilya, if you read this (which I doubt), start thinking about the way you and your guys are treating the community and the people who could support you.
I think Ilya could take a note from his friend Jason over at 777, I notice that often when new players turn up with issues on the ROF forums he will personally assist them, it's the little things that make the customers want to come back for more, leaving customers up in the air is just bad business, simple as that, not sure if Luthier is the only one at fault but this whole project has been poorly managed from start to finish, of course having a publisher like UBI doesn't help either, they are not exactly known for their customer support.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:43 AM
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Point is we have heard it all before... its all redundant bitching now... how many times do we need someone to point out what is wrong? *golf clap* for SimHQ.... they get the Captain Obvious award... maybe the need someone writing articles that actual research something new and interesting...

I am gonna write an article about how the sky is blue.... be back later.
you know, I didn't start this thread. Neither did I write that article. But I tend to participate sometimes, to help reminding those in charge that people are waiting.

And why do you even klick on this thread if it's not of interest for you? I mean, I haven't read the "whens the new patch due" thread up until now...
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