Head Tracking with Cliffs of Dover - Page 20

Stipe · #**191** 02-14-2011, 05:29 AM

Politely asking the developer of DCS thru e-mail or otherwise is the way to go then. That way we would know the ultimate thruth.
Also, the sim community would need to become "laud" and cool-headed
about proposing the idea of generic interface to game developers. I'm sure they would do the effort if the backdoor "game" is clean.

Wolf_Rider · #**192** 02-14-2011, 05:33 AM

Bravo

julian265 · #**193** 02-14-2011, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

@ Blackdog... I have only found the one link back to DCS, the popular one which always gets trundled out. It gives a short statement and no detail.

The statement gets "trundled out" because it's clear enough. The likelihood that ED's SDK would have had anything to do with NP's software is extremely low, for two reasons:
- It would have been illegal, and TIR probably would have been patched to no longer work with ED products (fair enough).
- There was no reason to the steal code to perform such a simple task.

Either way, ED did the right thing and exposed A-10C's head control axes for assignment (which I think is all that is needed). Whether they did for BS or not, I can't remember.

MadBlaster · #**194** 02-14-2011, 05:45 AM

They used TrackIR encrypted interface.

Quote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetra...ckIR_interface

NP shot them down when they tried to do their own thing.

Quote:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=33510

Sorry these links are redundant.

You get no reconciliation from me W-R troll. You are running interference with your own hidden agenda. Play the sympathy card all you want. You started it with me I think around #110 or #112 with the derogatory comments. Ok done.

Wolf_Rider · #**195** 02-14-2011, 05:47 AM

Julian, Blaster please... it can't be that difficult to digest what is on this and the previous page alone, can it?

julian265 · #**196** 02-14-2011, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Rider

Julian, Blaster please... it can't be that difficult to digest what is on this page alone, can it?

You asked "Julian, there is a standing question at the moment; Did DCS develop their own method or did DCS use the NP SDK?"

I referred to the ED quote:
"Every joystick has standard software interface, that's why every joystick works in every game. For now there is no standard for head tracking devices software interface. We were going to add vendor-independent SDK in English release to allow every head tracking vendor (including FreeTrack) implement support of their devices for BlackShark. SDK has been removed from English release because of NaturalPoint request. Now we make agreement with NaturalPoint and we will release 3DOF version of our head tracking SDK soon."

So the answer to your question is "DCS was developing their own, however NP requested that it not be included in the English version".

If you disagree, explain why, rather than pretending that everyone else just doesn't get it.

MadBlaster · #**197** 02-14-2011, 05:59 AM

What did you do W-R? Buy off Stipe with a new TrackIR? You are cunning. I"ll give you that.

Stipe · #**198** 02-14-2011, 06:02 AM

If I may add something. We all need to cool down. Blaster as you see, the aggresive route leads nowhere. W-R, i'm sorry, but your answers sometimes come forward as arrogant. If this continues, we will throw fecies at each other before the game comes out. At the end we wont have nothing.
I know, "you are the one to talk", but i deleted my messages or edited them in this topic and i call you guys to do the same. Don't want to sound patronizing or poetic, but we are a dying breed. The flight sim community that is.
And MadBlaster, don't call me a sell out. I'm not that cheap. Sometimes one needs to take a deep breath and think if his words represent his age. Let it go.

Wolf_Rider · #**199** 02-14-2011, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by julian265

"~ We were going to add vendor-independent SDK in English release to allow every head tracking vendor (including FreeTrack) implement support of their devices for BlackShark. ~"

the part of the quote addressed... and yes, thank you for that full quote.

The question still remains though... was the (to be clearer) "vendor independant" SDK, developed purely by DCS without reference to or use of NP's SDK?

Wolf_Rider · #**200** 02-14-2011, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stipe

If I may add something. We all need to cool down. Blaster as you see, the aggresive route leads nowhere. W-R, i'm sorry, but your answers sometimes come forward as arrogant. If this continues, we will throw fecies at each other before the game comes out. At the end we wont have nothing.
I know, "you are the one to talk", but i deleted my messages or edited them in this topic and i call you guys to do the same. Don't want to sound patronizing or poetic, but we are a dying breed. The flight sim community that is.

please accept my apologies if that is the way my answers, etc, may at times come across, they are not intended to be arrogant. I will attempt to address this though.