Difference spit mk IX and mk XVI?

[David603]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Just got my Mk16 tonight after plugging away all week. The cockpit is the Mk9 version from the inside, you can tell because of the rear glass panel arch above the seat. I must say though there is something a bit fishy about it.

The games hanger says it only has two 7.7 MG's & two 20mm cannons but the plane feels like it packs a bigger punch compared to the other spits. Im not sold on the lost turn circle for increased roll rate yet. However it is a bit easier to keep on a 109's tail, so thats a plus.

Should say 2 .50cal(13mm) MGs and 2 20mm cannon.

[Mobius]

Originally Posted by Lexandro

Just got my Mk16 tonight after plugging away all week. The cockpit is the Mk9 version from the inside, you can tell because of the rear glass panel arch above the seat. I must say though there is something a bit fishy about it.

The games hanger says it only has two 7.7 MG's & two 20mm cannons but the plane feels like it packs a bigger punch compared to the other spits. Im not sold on the lost turn circle for increased roll rate yet. However it is a bit easier to keep on a 109's tail, so thats a plus.

I'm sorry but the MkXVI cockpit is not the same as the MkIX, it may not be perfect but it's definitly not the same as the MkIX... The rear view is really better.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by David603

Yeah, I know it has the bubble canopy, but I think the interior of the cockpit is probably just taken from the MkIX, which doesn't have a bubble canopy. Its the same with the P51 borrowing the P47's cockpit, because if you look back when inside the P51 you will see a big armour plate that wouldn't be there if it was the proper cockpit.

The P51D's cockpit in the game is a from the P47D which also had a bubble canopy so the view backwards is comparable. Also the P51D did have armour plateing behind the pilots head.

[Soviet Ace]

I just like the MkIX, and how it handles. The others don't seem to be much better or worse for that matter? Maybe it's just how their configured for the game, but I don't see much difference except between the speed and ability of the MkIX and MkII.

[QBlackDeathQ]

I consider myself a Spitfire cynosure or sorts and well I like the MK XVI. I find it a bit faster. And i know how to out turn anyother spit version. ask around

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by QBlackDeathQ

I consider myself a Spitfire cynosure or sorts and well I like the MK XVI. I find it a bit faster. And i know how to out turn anyother spit version. ask around

Well it should be slightly faster as the mkxvi in the game is obviously (bubble canopy) a much later built plane than mk ix in the game. This mk xvi would also have the packard version of the Merlin 66 engine, the mk ix only having the Merlin 61 with a couple of hundred less hp. With the XVI's clipped wings it should roll quicker than the IX at low altitude, but take the XVI higher up and the handling performance will drop.

[David603]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

Well it should be slightly faster as the mkxvi in the game is obviously (bubble canopy) a much later built plane than mk ix in the game. This mk xvi would also have the packard version of the Merlin 66 engine, the mk ix only having the Merlin 61 with a couple of hundred less hp. With the XVI's clipped wings it should roll quicker than the IX at low altitude, but take the XVI higher up and the handling performance will drop.

Both the IX and XVI could have versions of the Merlin 66. MkIXs were built with the Merlin 61(later replaced by Merlin 63), 66 and 70 engines as F.MKIX, LF.MkIX and HF.MkIX respectively. The F.MkIX was the initial production version, and was the standard fighter model. Over time refinements were introduced, with a pointed rudder, bubble canopy, and the E wing armament (2x20mm+2x.50cal) being introduced, but not all at one time. The LF.MkIX had the Merlin 66, which was tuned to produce more power low down, at the expense of power high up, and was commonly fitted with clipped wingtips. The HF.MkIX was a high altitude version, with a Merlin 70 and often fitted with extended wingtips. Same refinements as per the basic F model were applied to these versions as these became available.

The MkXVI was produced with the Packard built equivalent of a Merlin 66 only, giving it the exact same performance as a LF.MkIX. Since they were introduced late in the MkIX's production life, most of the 1,000 odd Mk.XVI's produced had bubble canopies and the later E wing armament, and most were fitted with clipped wingtips to suit their role as a low altitude fighter.

In short, you could have a LF.MkIX with exactly the same features as the MkXVI in BoP, with clipped wings, bubble canopy and 2x20mm plus 2x.50cal armament or a MkXVI with standard wings, a high back and 2x20mm plus 4x.303cal armament which would look exactly like the MkIX we have in BoP.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by David603

Both the IX and XVI could have versions of the Merlin 66. MkIXs were built with the Merlin 61(later replaced by Merlin 63), 66 and 70 engines as F.MKIX, LF.MkIX and HF.MkIX respectively. The F.MkIX was the initial production version, and was the standard fighter model. Over time refinements were introduced, with a pointed rudder, bubble canopy, and the E wing armament (2x20mm+2x.50cal) being introduced, but not all at one time. The LF.MkIX had the Merlin 66, which was tuned to produce more power low down, at the expense of power high up, and was commonly fitted with clipped wingtips. The HF.MkIX was a high altitude version, with a Merlin 70 and often fitted with extended wingtips. Same refinements as per the basic F model were applied to these versions as these became available.

The MkXVI was produced with the Packard built equivalent of a Merlin 66 only, giving it the exact same performance as a LF.MkIX. Since they were introduced late in the MkIX's production life, most of the 1,000 odd Mk.XVI's produced had bubble canopies and the later E wing armament, and most were fitted with clipped wingtips to suit their role as a low altitude fighter.

In short, you could have a LF.MkIX with exactly the same features as the MkXVI in BoP, with clipped wings, bubble canopy and 2x20mm plus 2x.50cal armament or a MkXVI with standard wings, a high back and 2x20mm plus 4x.303cal armament which would look exactly like the MkIX we have in BoP.

Yes I know all that. What I am saying is the mk IX plane in the game is an early production mkIX not a late production mkIX, so it makes sense that the late production mkXVI in the game is faster.

[David603]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

Yes I know all that. What I am saying is the mk IX plane in the game is an early production mkIX not a late production mkIX, so it makes sense that the late production mkXVI in the game is faster.

Well, not necessarily. The MkIX in the game isn't one of the very early production models, since it has a pointed rudder, but I can't remember if the Merlin 63 engine or the pointed rudder was introduced first.

Also, the MkIX in the game could be a LF.MkIX with the same engine power ratings as the MkXVI, because the Merlin 66 was introduced before production switched to the bubble canopy and E wing, but this is unlikely since most LF Spits had clipped wingtips.

[QBlackDeathQ]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

Well it should be slightly faster as the mkxvi in the game is obviously (bubble canopy) a much later built plane than mk ix in the game. This mk xvi would also have the packard version of the Merlin 66 engine, the mk ix only having the Merlin 61 with a couple of hundred less hp. With the XVI's clipped wings it should roll quicker than the IX at low altitude, but take the XVI higher up and the handling performance will drop.

thats why i keep her low and tight on the deck are you on the ps3 version?