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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-20-2012, 04:51 PM
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I was already using steam before and didn't have a problem with it. Steam has great sales. I'm more worried about the state of CloD.

The IL2 crowd here hate change. That is why they hate steam. Its the mentality of "I got by without it before, why do I need It now." Their old and set in there ways. Now get off my lawn.
It sounds ok as long as everything runs fine.

It sucks when it breaks and you can´t access any of the games you bought, like it happend yesterday for entire German Steam community for 24h.

If for some reason Valve goes broke or isn´t reachable anymore you can forget about all of your games.

I call that very risky.


The fact that steam makes great sales means nothing to your rights or security.
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:28 PM
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It sounds ok as long as everything runs fine.

It sucks when it breaks and you can´t access any of the games you bought, like it happend yesterday for entire German Steam community for 24h.
Save your login information on your Computer and the next time it happens, switch to offline mode. in all those years, offline mode almost always worked, only if steam went down during a platform update, only then was steam inaccesible.

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If for some reason Valve goes broke or isn´t reachable anymore you can forget about all of your games.
That´s not necessarily true. You can definitely forget about VALVe games, that´s for sure. Egosoft for example confirmed, that if steam goes down, they would release a "No Steam Patch" for their upcoming game X-Rebirth. Other Developers might do the same.
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Old 04-20-2012, 07:25 PM
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Save your login information on your Computer and the next time it happens, switch to offline mode. in all those years, offline mode almost always worked, only if steam went down during a platform update, only then was steam inaccesible.
THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE YESTERDAY FOR ANYONE IN GERMANY THAT COULD NOT CONNECT.


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That´s not necessarily true. You can definitely forget about VALVe games, that´s for sure. Egosoft for example confirmed, that if steam goes down, they would release a "No Steam Patch" for their upcoming game X-Rebirth. Other Developers might do the same.
If there is still any support for that very game, you are correct.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:58 PM
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I'd like to add to this that I think Steam is a great service, it has some minor quirks but compared to everything else out there it is king, for many reasons.
just wait till steam goes down and you cant play ANY of the games you legitimately purchased...
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Old 04-21-2012, 10:25 AM
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just wait till steam goes down and you cant play ANY of the games you legitimately purchased...
And if you bother to read the EULA/TOS of said game, you'd see that you haven't bought the game, you've bought the right to play the game, until and unless the distributor/producer of said game revokes that right. Which, of course, they can do at any given time, without notifying you about it.

Steam goes down from time to time. That's what software and servers do *shrug* If you don't like it: Stop buying Steam-games. If you continue to buy Steam-games, you have absolutely NOTHING to complain about. At all, period.
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Old 04-21-2012, 11:40 AM
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Steam doesn't help when you've installed the game on the wrong account... When I buy BoM I will install it on my actual account - but does that mean technically I no longer own CoD - and they cannot be merged? For the same obvious reason that I cannot merge my game with another I don't 'own' even though I bought both and are both installed on the same computer?
My fault I know - was too excited... I fear I may have to buy CoD again.

But I am hoping that when that time arrives that CoD will be worth about $20 or less, which I am more than happy to pay!
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:25 AM
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It also means though you bought a game you cannot sell it anymore.
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:34 AM
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And if you bother to read the EULA/TOS of said game, you'd see that you haven't bought the game, you've bought the right to play the game, until and unless the distributor/producer of said game revokes that right. Which, of course, they can do at any given time, without notifying you about it.
I really despise that argument. I don't own the movie I bought on DVD or the music on the CD, but I'd love to see the "owner" tell me I can't watch or listen anymore. As a matter of fact, should they decide I can no longer play CoD, will a refund be forth coming? I highly doubt it. That money's has been/is being spent, I assume, on improving CoD and it's follow ons.

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I really despise that argument. I don't own the movie I bought on DVD or the music on the CD, but I'd love to see the "owner" tell me I can't watch or listen anymore. As a matter of fact, should they decide I can no longer play CoD, will a refund be forth coming? I highly doubt it. That money's has been/is being spent, I assume, on improving CoD and it's follow ons.
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And if you bother to read the EULA/TOS of said game, you'd see that you haven't bought the game, you've bought the right to play the game, until and unless the distributor/producer of said game revokes that right. Which, of course, they can do at any given time, without notifying you about it.

Steam goes down from time to time. That's what software and servers do *shrug* If you don't like it: Stop buying Steam-games. If you continue to buy Steam-games, you have absolutely NOTHING to complain about. At all, period.
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