Request to the moderators

[Pudfark]

Originally Posted by LUD

Fully support this, but I am more radical, i would lock the future official updates, if we ever have any more....

Comments could still be made in the pilots lounge. The people looking for useful information would lose nothing with respect to the current situation, as it would be the same pain to find something worth in the pile of bs, but at least we could save to the developers (and to some of us the shame) the sad spectacle of seeing some insolent answers we have seen today.

Sorry if I hurt someone, but imo we aren't yet as a whole mature enough to receive updates, much less to receive "interactive ones".

I agree completely...ROF...









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[LcSummers]

Yeah this would be nice +1

[jcenzano]

Originally Posted by LUD

Fully support this, but I am more radical, i would lock the future official updates, if we ever have any more....

Comments could still be made in the pilots lounge. The people looking for useful information would lose nothing with respect to the current situation, as it would be the same pain to find something worth in the pile of bs, but at least we could save to the developers (and to some of us the shame) the sad spectacle of seeing some insolent answers we have seen today.

Sorry if I hurt someone, but imo we aren't yet as a whole mature enough to receive updates, much less to receive "interactive ones".

+1

[theOden]

I'm not sure I understand the goal here.

All cheers and happiness in the update thread and all critizism and the unhappy customers in a seperate thread held away in some sub forum to to be seen by potentially new customers?

Will possibly "sensible" posts be screened by you and then, if approved, moved up to the update thread?

If this one doesn't remind me of news from East Germany and Soviet Russia back when I was young, I guess nothing would.

Feel free to censor me, I'm starting to get the picture how things are done in here. Seen how people like Tree and furbs putting up hard questions aren't getting answered but rather moderated away this suggestion of post #1 would not surprise me to be seen put into action.

Maybe extend the forum beyond "moderator" and denote some memebers as "Political Commisar", like Klem and maybe that odd Ace-man?

[klem]

Originally Posted by theOden

I'm not sure I understand the goal here.

All cheers and happiness in the update thread and all critizism and the unhappy customers in a seperate thread held away in some sub forum to to be seen by potentially new customers?

Will possibly "sensible" posts be screened by you and then, if approved, moved up to the update thread?

If this one doesn't remind me of news from East Germany and Soviet Russia back when I was young, I guess nothing would.

Feel free to censor me, I'm starting to get the picture how things are done in here. Seen how people like Tree and furbs putting up hard questions aren't getting answered but rather moderated away this suggestion of post #1 would not surprise me to be seen put into action.

Maybe extend the forum beyond "moderator" and denote some memebers as "Political Commisar", like Klem and maybe that odd Ace-man?

The goal is to obtain clear information from the developers and to provide the opportunity to ask or to see clear questions specifically on the update information and find the devs answers.

There are no sinister intentions here. Don't confuse suppressive censorship with trying to keep important Threads meaningful, on topic and free of Trolls.

I am a forum user just like you but I get sick of wading through a pile of vitriol and often childish arguments when what I want from an update thread is to easily find the information it gives and to see relevant questions and answers. There are plenty of threads where people can argue themselves blue in the face and hurl insults at eachother if they want.

I think you must see that many posts in the last update thread were just a battle of personalised vitriol and repeated complaints that we've all seen so many times before and that do not specifically reference the update information. Its not that some of the complaints aren't valid and I understand that more recent purchasers of CoD will want to come here and register their point of view but that isn't what the update threads are for. Do we really have to wade through all of that every time to find the useful information? My suggestion is simply that certain Threads be given a special status that keeps them useful.

As for members that get a ban, some of them seem to enjoy only being deliberately and boringly provocative on the same old subjects, again and again and again and again, questions that have already been answered, again and again and again. It reduces them to Trolls and personally I'm glad the moderators are taking a stronger line. I come here to find useful information and help if I can, not to wade through a pile of nonsense that wouldn't be tolerated in a kids classroom.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by theOden

Seen how people like Tree and furbs putting up hard questions aren't getting answered but rather moderated away this suggestion of post #1 would not surprise me to be seen put into action.

you'r making a major error if you are trying to hold up tree as an example of anything good in this forum in the last few years. for anybody who has seen him in action here over the last few years ( presming the observer has an IQ over 100), tree was the extreme example of a petulant perpetual whiner who's sole purpose was to put a negative slant on everything, and he did so frequently and with the sole aim to deliberatly misrepresenting facts and mislead people

aside from that lapse in your reference material, i'd agree with your main point: strictly censoring posters to try and remove people reporting problems is no solution.

some of the old timer posters in this thread seem to have a short memory however. previous moderators when dealing with similar problems already repeatedly stated that (unless outright flame wars) they stop reading the thread for feedback after the first few pages

we've been there before folks. those ignoring history are doomed to repeat it, err, who said that again ?

[jimbop]

+1

A related discussion thread will no doubt start within a nanosecond but the actual information and relevant responses would be easy to find.

[Hood]

Hehe my own suggestion about such a locked update thread led to 60 deleted posts and it being locked.

It's the way to go.

Hood

[Force10]

I would think that a seperation of COD and BOM would be helpful at some point. If the new pics of the BOM planes were in a seperate thread from the Dev update for COD, there would be less wading through OT stuff.

[jimbop]

Originally Posted by Ribbs67

Sorry 6BL Birddog.... That im requsting this right after your post.. but while were on the topic of keeping the update thread clean, I wish we could get rid of all the "quoted" + 1... And +100000 posts also. I find them very redundant, and not needed. I feel like they clog up the thread just as much as the Trolling thats going on.

+1

Sorry, couldn't resist!