Project " Battle of France and Low Countries " : Add-on for BOB

[Schwarz.13]

Originally Posted by Schwarz.13

Any plans to include the Dewoitine D.520???



Formidable little fighter with nose-mounted 20mm Hispano (+ 4 MGs) - comparable to bf109E for potency/performance (apart from direct fuel-injection)...

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox

11)Any plans to include the Dewoitine D.520??? (It’s formidable little fighter with nose-mounted 20mm Hispano (+ 4 MGs) - comparable to bf109E for potency/performance (apart from direct fuel-injection)...

"We - not. But third party will be able to do it in time themselves."

Excellent news!!!

[Rama]

Originally Posted by Schwarz.13

Excellent news!!!

Do you think?

The only good news would be if a third-party team announce that they will develop the D520. at my knowing, it's not the case today.
... so far... the D520 model for SoW is in oblivion.

[Schwarz.13]

Originally Posted by Rama

Do you think?

The only good news would be if a third-party team announce that they will develop the D520. at my knowing, it's not the case today.
... so far... the D520 model for SoW is in oblivion.

Sorry, but i was under the impression the OP was part of a 3rd party team who were planning on a France 1940 add-on or something.

TBH, from what he wrote it's not really clear at all

[Oktoberfest]

Actually I think third party developpers are interested, but as long as they don't get any infos on how to build a plane in SoW, of course they can't do anything.

I'm expecting a BoF addon for so long already in IL2. I always asked me why they lost time to model fantasy planes or prototypes and not plane that actually saw action during maybe only 6 months of the war, but at least were really existing.

I want a D520 or a MB152 flyable. And a MS406 if possible. And at least one french twin engine (but please not the Amiot 143....)

[FAW_SAUMON]

Originally Posted by Oktoberfest

And at least one french twin engine (but please not the Amiot 143....)

" AMIOT 143 " is the next topo about french airplane ... sorry

Sure, i don't know if this plane must be created for SOW...So, it must have datas to create something...but now still nothing ... is it clear for all? lol

we are all waiting the informations from 1C and Oleg Maddox ...

[Oktoberfest]

Well, I don't mind the Amiot beeing created, but if the LeO 451 or the Breguet 693 are created also, I prefer one of them flyable in priority to the Amiot.

It's too slow ! We don't need another TB3.

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by Rama

@Freddie: no, both planes are not related

@Thor: I agree with you. Arsenal VG33 could have only a place in a "what-if"... if one day all necessary aircraft for BoF are modelled (something I highly doubt...) then and only then people could start to think on "what-if" planes.
.... but in any case, IL2 has shown that no third-party 3D-modellers are interested by BoF (only exception was the external model of the H75)... and we all know M:1C will not do it... so the probability BoF will ever see the day is extremelly low.

with the planned 3.party tool it will be possible in the SoW engine............. but, with the needed time to modell the highly detailed stuff (planes, groundobjects, maps) for the SoW engine, at least at a good standard , im looking forward highly curious what the time will bring from the 3.party modellers !!

a project like a planned BoF scenario, i guess, that would need a lot of teamwork.

and actually i guess, the first 3.party stuff for SoW will look more like the "typical wanted" Mustang and late Spitcrowd......................................... .....
3.Party guys are free in their time and will what to choose to modell - thats good and correct , but not always to my (very) personal desire
and in SoW they even NOT have to ask the Maddox guys if they would include thier stuff in the gameengine. And we all know what even this kind of work brought in the game , from the viewpoint of an historical interested flightsimmer

[Oktoberfest]

Well, I think that 3rd party would firstly try to develop 1 aircraft with cockpit and the rest in AI for a start.

So I guess the D.520 or the MS406 would have good chances to be the first french aircraft modelized with cockpit and 2 or 3 others would be just modelized with no cockpit (surely the twin-engine models).

I think most of the developpers wouldn't mind spending so much time on an aircraft as soon as they know that their plane will be implemented in the game. I know that the standard is high and that we will need to wait 1 year per aircraft type, but hey, at least we can hope to get them in 5 years !

IL2 is 7 years old now and will be 8 or 9 when SoW will be released, so I guess I can hope to see my aircraft flying in it on day. (we had so weird aircraft modelized.... P11, Lerche, Ta183, A5m that had actually even less service during WWII than any french plane). So someone will surely model a french fighter at the end !

[FAW_SAUMON]

Originally Posted by Oktoberfest

Well, I don't mind the Amiot beeing created, but if the LeO 451 or the Breguet 693 are created also, I prefer one of them flyable in priority to the Amiot.

It's too slow ! We don't need another TB3.

Of course, Leo 45 and Bréguet 693 are priorities !!

Leo 45 :




Bréguet 693 :

[Asheshouse]

Saumon

A few suggestions.
The level of detail required for models in SoW will be very high.

1. Engine details. You need detailed drawings of engine layouts, mountings and ancillary components including oil and fuel tank layouts etc. Some engines were used on numerous different aircraft so a bit of research here is useful for more than one model if you research the commonly used types.

2. Airframes. You need internal details of the aircraft structure. 3D cutaway drawings or manufacturing photos or similar. Photos of crash sites often show a lot of structural detail not normally seen.

3. Cockpit details. Good internal photos of each crew position.

Better to focus on one aircraft type and get lots of detail rather than covering lots of types with little detail.

I would love to see some French aircraft models created, not just for BoF but also Syria and Tunisia and retaliation raids on Gibraltar etc.