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Old 09-22-2011, 01:23 AM
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EEUU said to Hitler, "hey, stop bombing England for now, his economy is now like we want it to be, and go to Russia, the communist are plague in everywhere"

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Luftwaffe don't have the correct plane: They must nedd:; The Focke Wulf 190 and the Bf-109F, and big numbers of FW200 Condors.
if germany had this in 1940, they maybe are at the level of an invation.
Bf109E-4 was not the correct plane. first of all, low autonomy and incorrect armament. That problem of the MMGG in the engine must be fixed before the campaign. but... the corruption affect all goberments.

And i Vote for the He100, best than the BF109E:
670kmh 1.100km autonomy and engine cannon.
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:29 AM
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Don't think it was seen as the beginning of the end. Remember the Wehrmacht went to the Balkans and made short work of Greece, Yugoslavia and the British Expeditionary Forces there. And then they even captured Crete ... and then there was, of course, Rommel and his Afrika Korps.

The main result was, however, a beginning crisis of trust between the frontline and the leadership back in Berlin in the person of Göring and his closest cronies. Before the jokes about his considerable girth and his pompous manners were said with some kind of amused goodwill, but now they took on a decidedly acidic tone and grew more cutting than before. Especially among the fighter pilots who felt they'd been hung out to dry and then made scapegoats for the bomber losses (when it was apparent that Göring's own Intelligence section was better suited for writing fairy tales).
I totally agree with this and the description "cronies". I think if the smart men like Galland, Molders and General Kamhuber would have bean left alone to do their jobs and listened to things would have been much tougher for the allies in the air wars.
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Old 09-18-2011, 10:52 AM
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The British overestimated the strength of the Luftwaffe and its ability to replace losses and geared up accordingly.

The Germans underestimated the strength of Fighter Command, its defensive command and control systems, and Britain's ability to replace both aircraft and pilots.

The Luftwaffe's mass raids were partly designed to draw up the RAF in large numbers to be shot down.

Keith Park's insistence on sending up small numbers of fighters in relays prevented this happening. It's perhaps as well that Leigh-Mallory and Bader with their so called 'Big Wing' didn't get their way until after the Battle.

All of the factors leading to the outcome of the Battle would fill a book, in fact several as people keep writing them with a 'new' perspective.

As to 'how did they cope?' - they turned to night raids in smaller numbers, whilst they rebuilt their numerical strength in preparation for Barbarossa the following summer.

But as has already been said, a great deal of the skill and experience base was never regained and suffered greater attrition as the war continued.

It's my opinion that the biggest factor in the outcome of the Battle was the existence of a stretch of water called the 'English Channel'. Were it not for this, Blitzkrieg would have overrun Britain just as it had the largest military power in Europe, which at the time was France.
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Old 09-19-2011, 09:10 AM
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They went to Russia and kicked ass.
I do not know how did march in Berlin in 1945?
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How did they cope with it?
Well....to sum it up, they never really coped with it, it hurt so bad they still feel it, and have had 'issues' with the Brits ever since.
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Well....to sum it up, they never really coped with it, it hurt so bad they still feel it, and have had 'issues' with the Brits ever since.
Jepp, we really do, these crazies always drive on the wrong side of the road. But hey they have to pay 1,5€ for a can of beer, so thats understandable.
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Jepp, we really do, these crazies always drive on the wrong side of the road. But hey they have to pay 1,5€ for a can of beer, so thats understandable.

this is a quote because I'm tired of typing loads....


Up to the late 1700's, everybody travelled on the left side of the road because it's the sensible option for feudal, violent societies of mostly right-handed people.

Jousting knights with their lances under their right arm naturally passed on each other's right, and if you passed a stranger on the road you walked on the left to ensure that your protective sword arm was between yourself and him.

Revolutionary France, however, overturned this practice as part of its sweeping social rethink. A change was carried out all over continental Europe by Napoleon.The reason it changed under Napoleon was because he was left handed his armies had to march on the right so he could keep his sword arm between him and any opponent.

From then on, any part of the world which was at some time part of the British Empire was thus left hand and any part colonised by the French was right hand.

In America, the French colonised the southern states (Louisiana for instance) and the Canadian east coast (Quebec). The Dutch colonised New York (or New Amsterdam). The Spanish and Portugese colonised the southern Americas. So The British were a minority in shaping the 'traffic'.

The drive-on-the-right policy was adopted by the USA, which was anxious to cast off all remaining links with its British colonial past

Once America drove on the right, left-side driving was ultimately doomed. If you wanted a good reliable vehicle, you bought American, for a period they only manufactured right-hand-drive cars.

From then on many countries changed out of necessity.

Today, the EC would like Britain to fall into line with the rest of Europe, but this is no longer possible. It would cost billions of pounds to change everything round.
The last European country to convert to driving on the right was Sweden in 1967. While everyone was getting used to the new system, they paid more attention and took more care, resulting in a reduction of the number of road accident casualties.

From September 2009 Samoa now drives on the left instead of the right.
The main reason for this is that they want to use right-hand-drive cars, for instance from Japan and New Zealand, which both drive on the left.

So there you go...the rest of you only do it because the French told you to........wonder what happened last time Germany was dictated to by the French......

OOOOHHHH! but the expensive beer thing hurts man! thats a low low blow
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