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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-17-2011, 05:03 PM
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****** I knew it. I should've bet consistently on the worst cases.
Well, then, a new bet: Considering the "all we've said previously is implemented", I count on at least 3 major bugs, making the patch as worthless as the previous ones.

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Old 06-17-2011, 05:19 PM
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Goddamn, I knew it. I should've bet consistently on the worst cases.
Well, then, a new bet: Considering the "all we've said previously is implemented", I count on at least 3 major bugs, making the patch as worthless as the previous ones.
Rather than sat on your lonely lil chair pretending to see into the future and spamming the forums all weekend with yur crap. find yurslef a female willing to be seen with you and have a blast of a weekend
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Old 06-17-2011, 06:50 PM
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Dude... shut up. Go play WoP or something and leave your negative comments out of Luthiers posts. I hope you get 20 major bugs and your computer dies and you can never play this sim until you die. Please die quickly, I dont want to listen to you moaning about this for another 10 years...Worthless piece of s***


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Old 06-17-2011, 06:58 PM
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Dude... shut up. Go play WoP or something and leave your negative comments out of Luthiers posts. I hope you get 20 major bugs and your computer dies and you can never play this sim until you die. Please die quickly, I dont want to listen to you moaning about this for another 10 years...Worthless piece of s***
Wishing someone's life to come to an end because they post negative comments about a PC GAME that they're clearly unhappy with, in a forum, a place where points of view can be expressed? Jeez dude what kind of f^&*face are u?

Peeps wonder why I'm but a silent contributor to this forums. I don't agree with this guy either with his rant but that's his opinion, although unpopular to most; he's entitled to it. I don't seem to find myself wishing he'd keel over & die any second. Guess I'm different to you somehow.
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:02 PM
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Dude... shut up. Go play WoP or something and leave your negative comments out of Luthiers posts. I hope you get 20 major bugs and your computer dies and you can never play this sim until you die. Please die quickly, I dont want to listen to you moaning about this for another 10 years...Worthless piece of s***
"please die quickly", hmm? So that there's no one that tries to keep you primates in check? 88, Dudeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Old 06-18-2011, 09:57 AM
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****** I knew it. I should've bet consistently on the worst cases.
Well, then, a new bet: Considering the "all we've said previously is implemented", I count on at least 3 major bugs, making the patch as worthless as the previous ones.

I have to cut the lawn, walk the dog and bring the coffee machine for service.
I will not do any of that because the new patch will fix everything



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Old 06-18-2011, 04:27 AM
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luthier, why a german "Minenleger" ship?
we need a english convoy cover Battleship!
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Old 06-18-2011, 04:48 AM
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Ilya, here in Germany we realy wonder, how far away you are from knowing Gameplay Issus.

Still missing the essential Things:

Promotion System for offline Gameplay
Medal System for Offline Gameplay
Correct Flags ingame (The German Colours in WWII were note Black/Red/Gold, it was Black White Red)
British Destroyer for Convoy Cover (you doing a German Mine Layer Boat... Crazy to see how far away MG is from Customers)
Still no Third Party Support, no answers on E-Mails and so waisting Manpower and such things.
No Bf 109 E-4, the most used Variant in the BoB, because close to all E-3 were fitted to E-4 Standard till August 1940. But instead: Gladiator Bi-Plane, Never saw Combat in the BoB. And italian Planes. Nice to see them but: Only 1 (!!!) Combat with them to deal and this was November 11th 1940 (britisch Counting of BoB is Juli 10th till October 31st).
No possibility to implement Movies into Campaigns
No Documentation for FMB
No working Weather
No working Landscape in Higher Mode (yes, Original Textures killing Performance again. Good Work, Ilya!)

Sometimes we think, that you focus on wrong ways far away from customers satisfaction to own wishes. We offered you support now three times. But no answers.

And for this, Read again the Statements of German Customers on Amazon.de:

http://www.amazon.de/IL-2-Sturmovik-...8372458&sr=1-1

Cheers
Sven, Olaf, Dimitri, Christian and Thomas

Forgot to say: Still no Commanding of Wing, Wingmen oranything that Radio needed!!!

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Old 06-18-2011, 07:43 AM
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Ilya, here in Germany we realy wonder, how far away you are from knowing Gameplay Issus.

Still missing the essential Things:

Promotion System for offline Gameplay
Medal System for Offline Gameplay
Correct Flags ingame (The German Colours in WWII were note Black/Red/Gold, it was Black White Red)
British Destroyer for Convoy Cover (you doing a German Mine Layer Boat... Crazy to see how far away MG is from Customers)
Still no Third Party Support, no answers on E-Mails and so waisting Manpower and such things.
No Bf 109 E-4, the most used Variant in the BoB, because close to all E-3 were fitted to E-4 Standard till August 1940. But instead: Gladiator Bi-Plane, Never saw Combat in the BoB. And italian Planes. Nice to see them but: Only 1 (!!!) Combat with them to deal and this was November 11th 1940 (britisch Counting of BoB is Juli 10th till October 31st).
No possibility to implement Movies into Campaigns
No Documentation for FMB
No working Weather
No working Landscape in Higher Mode (yes, Original Textures killing Performance again. Good Work, Ilya!)

Sometimes we think, that you focus on wrong ways far away from customers satisfaction to own wishes. We offered you support now three times. But no answers.

And for this, Read again the Statements of German Customers on Amazon.de:

http://www.amazon.de/IL-2-Sturmovik-...8372458&sr=1-1

Cheers
Sven, Olaf, Dimitri, Christian and Thomas
It is indeed very ironic to see the first warship in CloD in the form of the german Minensuchboot M1935. As such, however, it does fit with the weird choices of additions Maddox Games has made since Il-2 Sturmovik 1.0 (i.e. MiG-3U, I-153P).

I do, however, agree with desastersoft in one point specifically: I know you're not Oleg, Ilya. You probably do a lot of things a lot differently. But the inability to at least establish contact just to offer help with certain points is somewhat galling. You do remember the unit check I made? I spent half a week going through the files you sent me - added, corrected and fixed a number of small issues. But till this day I got no reply and I did send it via three different channels, probably ten times now. You must be aware that you guys can't fix all the issues on your own at the same time. People are offering help and yet there is no feedback. This is disappointing, to say the least.
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:31 AM
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You must be aware that you guys can't fix all the issues on your own at the same time. People are offering help and yet there is no feedback. This is disappointing, to say the least.
This is weird for me too. Through the community they could get hundreds of hours of extra work force that is dedicated and knowledgeable on the topic.

This is speculation ofcourse, but I think it originates from the same bucket as the challenges with communication in general. Those two would be easy and low hanging fruits to harvest, but profound issues in the release have created walls of urgent extra work. This has a tendency of creating a stress driven tunnel-vision where focus is pinpointed only to the next milestone like the eye of Sauron. In this mode the easy wins are often not identified or prioritized high enough as they're not a concrete step in achiving the next objective which is the next patch atm.

I've been there myself and observed this happen around me too. It is an effective way in achieving the next milestone, but can have dramatic adverse effects for a longer term efficiency as you're looking only at the current 'battle' at hand instead of the 'war' as a whole.

And again, just speculation, but the variables in the equation could support such an analysis. And what the hell, as there isn't a patch nor a Q&A going on here one might as well spend the time on assumptions and innuendos.
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