about the BoB's Bf110 20mm Canons

[Furio]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

imagine the wonderful noise, heat and smell of cordite in there

Imagine doing that while performing high g manoeuvring!
If I’m not mistaken, the same system was employed on early Ju88 night fighters.

[Sven]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger

imagine the wonderful noise, heat and smell of cordite in there

If you think hard enough you'll smell it too! Lovely

Just a side-question, I didn't know the barrels of the 110's cannons were that long , the bullet must have had a higher velocity than lets say a 109's nose cannon, is that modelled in IL2, if not, I hope that will be modelled in SoWBoB, that is if my theory is right

Sven

[winny]

Originally Posted by Sven

If you think hard enough you'll smell it too! Lovely

Just a side-question, I didn't know the barrels of the 110's cannons were that long , the bullet must have had a higher velocity than lets say a 109's nose cannon, is that modelled in IL2, if not, I hope that will be modelled in SoWBoB, that is if my theory is right

Sven

I'm pulling this from memory so I could be wrong (I'm sure someone will let us know!)...

I think the 20mm in the 110 was the same as the ones fitted to 109's. ie. the MGFF. At least till 1941, where they switched them over to the MG151 20mm.

[JG53Frankyboy]

the barrels of the MG-FF/M ended long before the holes in the nose, they ended ~ below the pilot seat ! the shells had to "fly" through over-caliber tubes.

this was also the case with nose fitted Mg151 and MK108 in the later 109 series !
the barrels for sure not ended in the spinner hole

and yes, the Bf110C,D,E,F had the same canons as the Bf109E.
C-1,-2 had MG-FF, from C-3 on MG-FF/M. Exception was the C-6 with a MK101 30mm instead of the two 20mm...........
From 110G the 20mm were MG151/20 belt fed.

and true about the Beaufighter Mk.I , but it will be not flyable, only AI, in the first release AFAIK

[TinyTim]

The barrel wasn't any longer, it was an ordinary MG-FF. Just like the barrel of the MK108 on the Bf 109 didn't extend all the way from the cannon to the end of the spinner, it was much shorter. Blast tube of 5cm radius was installed from the end of the cannon barrel through the engine and through the spinner. The case was the same on the Bf 110.

EDIT: Franky beat me to it

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

the barrels of the MG-FF/M ended long before the holes in the nose, they ended ~ below the pilot seat ! the shells had to "fly" through over-caliber tubes.(

That means, if you fired at high g, you could hit the inside of the blast tubes! I wonder whether any aircraft were damaged or lost that way?

[robtek]

i think they saved the heavy guns for acccurate shooting, for high g deflection shooting the 4 mg17 should been enough

[KnightFandragon]

Will bombers be able to reload in flight period in SoW? Its kinda annoying now to be flying in a bomber, run out of ammo, look around, see Ammo boxes sitting around and cant use them. Im sure crews went up with extra ammo right?

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by KnightFandragon

Will bombers be able to reload in flight period in SoW? Its kinda annoying now to be flying in a bomber, run out of ammo, look around, see Ammo boxes sitting around and cant use them. Im sure crews went up with extra ammo right?

IIRC we already saw a Moskau Show video where the the drumchange of a Ju87s MG15 was animated

[TinyTim]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

That means, if you fired at high g, you could hit the inside of the blast tubes! I wonder whether any aircraft were damaged or lost that way?

That's impossible because the g value for something like this to occur is far too high.