Don't you feel ripped off as a console gamer?

[Zatoichi_Sanjuro]

Well, as a European console gamer I'm used to feeling ripped off.

I've not given up on PC gaming. Constantly upgrading hardware has always been it's bane, but it's always been there and it's greatly offset by the benefits.

Dragon Rising is a good example of how it's not the PC gamer that has given up on PC gaming, but the Publishers (most of them anyway). The money is in fleecing the console crowd who have proven time and time again they will happily pay for MP maps that were free on the PC. Dragon Rising is a console port over to PC with all the technical limitations that consoles have. It doesn't even support dedicated servers on PC, the biggest reason to play a PC online over a console.

IL2, on the other hand, was made and crafted for PC first. BoP was specifically made later for consoles. Sure, everyone wishes BoP has all the little details that people love about PC gaming, but there's a limit to what they can achieve on consoles. And since, afaik, this is their first foray into making a console flight sim I'm willing to forgive some of the minor details such as cockpits on 109s etc. being available on launch.

Personally, I don't feel ripped off with BoP at all. The campaign was great fun, if a little short, but the single missions are a massive extension as well as the multiplayer. The problem is that if you've given up on PC gaming, but you want the same experience that a PC game entails you are pretty much screwed. I'm just glad their are companies like 1C and BIS which continue to make games for PC gamers and don't just fob off a console port onto us.

[FOZ_1983]

im a harcore gamer on the 360 who happens to work 5 days a weeks and still gets a shit wage at the end of the month. I have bills to pay and other outgoings....

the 360 just adds to that! i do feel robbed at times yes. But who's the bigger mug?

them for charging that much etc, or me for paying for it?

[Blade1889]

I've just read the first few posts on this thread and have a question:

I've only received this game through the post today so don't know much about it. Is the original post saying that there is no way of taking off on a runway in this game then? Each mission starts mid-air?

I'm pretty sure you can land though right? I thought I saw a video of this the other day?

[SEE]

I bought the Xbox360 as I had heard that IL2 was to be launched for the consoles and, just as you have stated, fed up with the constant upgrades needed for PC based SIM titles. IL2 BOP for Consoles is a step in the right direction but I have to symapthise with the developers in the decisions that they have had to make in getting a product suitable for a market dominated by Arcade players and Plastic Guitar hero's. BOP is half way between being a SIm and an Arcade game. If you are serious about SIMs for consoles then buy the product and leave the feedback to improve the next release. MS and Sony also have to do their part and allow developers to fully exploit the potential of their Consoles. Low market share = no product update/improvements..........

[Houndstone Hawk]

Originally Posted by Blade1889

I've just read the first few posts on this thread and have a question:

I've only received this game through the post today so don't know much about it. Is the original post saying that there is no way of taking off on a runway in this game then? Each mission starts mid-air?

I'm pretty sure you can land though right? I thought I saw a video of this the other day?

Other than the few missions in the 1st Campaign (BoB) whereby you are given the option to fly back & land, the entire game including the half-hearted training mode, the entire rest of the games' campaign, & about 7/8th's of the training missions will have you start & finish in the air.

Take Off? I think that pops up once or twice thru all modes.

"What about Capture the Airfield online"?

Online is a lonely, lonely place to be as you will find out. Unless you're prepared to turn this experience into a pure arcade fest aka Blazing Angels & play online in arcade mode, you will hardly stand a chance of playing a decent online experience & sadly; the online is terribly flawed at this time.

[PantherAttack2]

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk

Online is a lonely, lonely place to be as you will find out. Unless you're prepared to turn this experience into a pure arcade fest aka Blazing Angels & play online in arcade mode, you will hardly stand a chance of playing a decent online experience & sadly; the online is terribly flawed at this time.

Well, even you have to admit even arcade mode on BoP is ten times better than Blazing Angels... (you don't see people flying into cliffs and bouncing back off alive in BoP do you?)

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by Houndstone Hawk

Before the loyal disciples jump in with all guns blazing, I am a fellow gamer that has grown tired of the pc community, having to shell out constantly for upgrades etc in order to stay at the cutting edge of gaming & like many other gamers,
(very long post)
true as I'll take my whining posts away & let you continue to enjoy ur game in peace!!!

Not ripped off enough to read all that . Don't get a career at a newspaper.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

Not ripped off enough to read all that . Don't get a career at a newspaper.

I worked at a small underground newspaper for a while, here in LA. This was nothing compared to the amount some of us wrote.

[Zatoichi_Sanjuro]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

I worked at a small underground newspaper for a while, here in LA.

The Militant?

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro

The Militant?

No But this was a couple years back. The papers no longer around.