IL2 and Sound Modding

[stalkervision]

ElAurens "Funny, I don't see any "AI mod".


I would love it because the ai has a lot of room for improvment IMO but any and all modes we talk about are considered cheats by You all..

[stalkervision]

ElAurens..We go around and around, and still the hack supporters will not admit that they are killing the online aspect of this sim. The hacked FMs are showing up online. The Warbirds of Prey servers have already banned users for doing so, and they have the tracks to prove it. And still you say there is nothing to worry about.


That is the server job isn't it? On every other on-line game it is..

[stalkervision]

"ElAurens"]We go around and around, and still the hack supporters will not admit that they are killing the online aspect of this sim. The hacked FMs are showing up online. The Warbirds of Prey servers have already banned users for doing so, and they have the tracks to prove it. And still you say there is nothing to worry about.

>we aren't killing squat.. so you banned a few players for cheating? Every on-line game does. what makes you so special?<


ElAurens..You claim you want to "improve" the offline aspect of the sim. Great, it does need it. I have tried for six years of constant flying this sim to "get into" offliine and every time I try I walk away in frustration, because no matter how well constructed the campaign is, it still is totally lacking for me. So you lot want to fix it. Very laudable, but, how are you "fixing" it? By adding more flyable aircraft and maps, which is not the fundamental problem with offline. The problem is the AI. You know it and I know it, and so does Oleg.

Funny, I don't see any "AI mod".

> As I said before I would like them but you demanded we don't dp hardy anything to the game and let me remind you people are constantly whining for new aircraft. Apparently you have never seen this. Just because YOU don't want them or need them should other people suffer?<

NElAurenso.. you are just using the mantra of improvement as an excuse to play with a new toy, that's all there is to it.

> hardy. We are responding to what the developers never wanted to respond to for the games users<

ElAurens..You very often castigate the online players for not being concerned about the offline user. But from where I am standing, you don't give a rat's behind about the online player's very valid concerns about the monster that you guys let loose without being able to control it. If online collapsed tomorrow you lot wouldn't care one damn bit. Why should you? After all you have your shiny new toy to play with.

?If that was the truth we wouldn't even need to talk to you would we? <

ElAurens..The fact that what you have done has pushed back the release of SOW:BoB, something that would benefit all of us in that it will have the ability to add user made items for offline use, goes right over your heads.

>No actually you and the community have done that all by yourself with all your constant whiny requests for NEW AIRCRAFT! Oleg said new aircraft take at least three to six months to produce. I figure if mods were availabe back then and in use you would have had SOW almost two years ago!

ElAurens...Oh the irony.

>Indeed!

ElAurens..You can type paragraph after paragraph in an effort to justify your deed, but it is falling on deaf ears, for we see your work for what it is and we see you for what you are.

There will be no compromise.

There will be no peace.

Compromising and making peace with cheats and liars never works.


> This is exactly what I have been saying all along you want no compromise whatsoever and just call all modders liars and cheats. What do you think about your on-line friends now sniper?

If you don't want any compromise. That is fine with me. After all we hold all the cards ....

[stalkervision]

The real irony of all these personal attacks agains't us mods who talk here is that we want to compromise with you all. We actually are in support of you. That is why we talk to you still. You are driving us further and further away from this support of the on-line community with all these personal attacks though...

[GF_Mastiff]

its funny how you modders talk about modding but when its not modded correctly and looks suspicious I wounder why some people are offended?

I was in a server, I will not name, they allow for the modds and I seen a very funny plane fly by me its wings were lets say weired looking in that one pointed up to the right the other pointed down to the left and it look like one of those walk like an Egyptian figures, who's to say what kind of quality control goes into the modding; EH?!

So if theres going to be modding it sure better match the FM and esprits de corps of the IL2 FB 1946 OLeg Maddox's version.

[robtek]

maybe it should be viewed like modders vs. non-modders is like smoker vs non-smokers.
in both cases is somebody affected from the doings of the other side, but not vice versa.
robtek

[kristorf]

Can we not accept that them that have it have it, them that don't don't.

If used soley for offline or ip to ip what damage is done to the online community (being mainly an online player myself)??

This is an arguement that goes into an ever decreasing circle, with some-one eventually disappearing up their own a*se.

Everyone is entitled to a view, and (in my opinion anyway) as long as they don't get personal or insulting it should stay that way.

[robtek]

and if pigs had wings they could fly

robtek

sorry, couldn´t help it

i really wouldn´t have a problem with modding if it wouldn´t affect online gaming.
The real and implicated influence of modding to online-gaming is desastrous.
If the modders (who founded this problem) find a way to ban the mods from online gaming with rc2, great, go ahead, i´m with you all the way.
But what i see is that the mods are modified that the (not very good) anti-cheat-protection of il2 is bypassed.
If the mods really where only for offline, p2p or open servers this would not have been happened.
Again: it looks like some modders want to destroy the fun for the online community.

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

If you don't want any compromise. That is fine with me. After all we hold all the cards ....

This statement says it all for me.

You are indeed a 14 year old playground bully, and nothing more. A wannabe online gangsta who gets his rocks off playing power games with legitimate users.

You better grow up son, because reality is about to go upside yo head bro.

[fly_zo]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

This statement says it all for me.

You are indeed a 14 year old playground bully, and nothing more. A wannabe online gangsta who gets his rocks off playing power games with legitimate users.

You better grow up son, because reality is about to go upside yo head bro.

quote:
"Name calling, how typical.

I do not own an mp3 player and have no music on my computer. I listen to vinyl LPs on a very high end system, and have the odd CD for my car only. I never rip music because that short changes the artist. A little something for you to think about.

And because I fly online exclusively (except for testing) I have no use for DCG.

In short you know nothing about me. Which is understanable, as you seem to know very little about things in general."

so for you name calling is ok? ... double standards ...as i said: hypocrite !